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If there were two HDMI ports, how would that impact your one-HDMI world? It's clear from the comments others would find it useful. So that's a valid compromise.

If there were two HDMI ports, how would that impact your one-HDMI world? It's clear from the comments others would find it useful. So that's a valid compromise. It's on the back of the unit so you wouldn't have to stare at that second unused port and shudder in disgust. > trying to keep an eye towards wants new vs supporting what's old No one is suggesting they trade anything away. Apple has settled on USB-C. But there's plenty of extra room on the rear panel. Your argument assumes benevolence on Apple's part. For all you know the chips support dual HDMI, they removed it to save money which ends up being pure profit because they didn't reduce the product price at all. Do you think adding a second HDMI would increase the arbitrary price from $2k to $2k plus $20? For the record, I would LOVE it if the Mac startup chime played "La Cucaracha"

chipotle_coyote 5y ago
> For all you know the chips support dual HDMI Sure, but I don't think any Apple Silicon Mac has dual HDMI. While I guess it's possible that they spent the money to design dual HDMI support in their own chips and then said "but now that we've done this, we can save twenty bucks by not actually making the physical ports," but doesn't it seem likely that they also saved the money by…not putting it on the chip? > Do you think adding a second HDMI would increase the arbitrary price from $2k to $2k plus $20? Do you think anyone contemplating buying a computer that starts at $2K is going to suddenly stop, slap their forehead, and scream, "To connect two HDMI monitors, I'm going to have to buy a $15 USB-C to HDMI cable instead of a $6 HDMI cable! That extra $9 blows my budget! CURSE YOU, TIM COOK!" I mean, I get what you're saying, but this just seems like a weirdly tiny hill to die on. :) > For the record, I would LOVE it if the Mac startup chime played "La Cucaracha" Well, who wouldn't.
dylan604 5y ago
You want a 2nd HDMI port, probably because you already own HDMI cables by the drawer full. That's a valid something. However, it's not like you have to replace your monitors because of only one HDMI port. There are cables that go from TB4 to HDMI without dongles. Yes, you would need a new something instead of the something you already have. Do you really know what the cost of adding a 2nd HDMI port to a system is? I do not. I do know it will be much more than the cost of the actual port connector itself. There's a new hole to be added to the case. There's more robotically soldered points to connect the new port to the system. Of the way the system is laid out on the board, is there enough bandwidth to supply signals to all of the ports? I have no idea the level of complexities involved in deciding what ports are available with the bandwidth of the system, but I do not for a second think that I could do it better.

chipotle_coyote 5y ago

> For all you know the chips support dual HDMI Sure, but I don't think any Apple Silicon Mac has dual HDMI. While I guess it's possible that they spent the money to design dual HDMI support in their own chips and then said "but now that we've done this, we can save twenty bucks by not actually making the physical ports," but doesn't it seem likely that they also saved the money by…not putting it on the chip? > Do you think adding a second HDMI would increase the arbitrary price from $2k to $2k plus $20? Do you think anyone contemplating buying a computer that starts at $2K is going to suddenly stop, slap their forehead, and scream, "To connect two HDMI monitors, I'm going to have to buy a $15 USB-C to HDMI cable instead of a $6 HDMI cable! That extra $9 blows my budget! CURSE YOU, TIM COOK!" I mean, I get what you're saying, but this just seems like a weirdly tiny hill to die on. :) > For the record, I would LOVE it if the Mac startup chime played "La Cucaracha" Well, who wouldn't.

dylan604 5y ago

You want a 2nd HDMI port, probably because you already own HDMI cables by the drawer full. That's a valid something. However, it's not like you have to replace your monitors because of only one HDMI port. There are cables that go from TB4 to HDMI without dongles. Yes, you would need a new something instead of the something you already have. Do you really know what the cost of adding a 2nd HDMI port to a system is? I do not. I do know it will be much more than the cost of the actual port connector itself. There's a new hole to be added to the case. There's more robotically soldered points to connect the new port to the system. Of the way the system is laid out on the board, is there enough bandwidth to supply signals to all of the ports? I have no idea the level of complexities involved in deciding what ports are available with the bandwidth of the system, but I do not for a second think that I could do it better.