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On one hand, I actually grew to love the current size of iPhones, 13 feels just right. On the other hand, touch id worked so much better for me. Not only with

On one hand, I actually grew to love the current size of iPhones, 13 feels just right. On the other hand, touch id worked so much better for me. Not only with masks in public, but also the fact that I unlocked my phone as I took it out of my pocket and it was unlocked when it was in front of me. Seems like such a small difference but I still miss that convenience. Now with this phone, it's hard to tell which I care about more.

TMWNN 5y ago
>On one hand, I actually grew to love the current size of iPhones, 13 feels just right. On the other hand, touch id worked so much better for me. Not only with masks in public, but also the fact that I unlocked my phone as I took it out of my pocket and it was unlocked when it was in front of me. Only Sprint offering an amazing upgrade caused me to move to iPhone 13. I really don't like Face ID for the reasons you mentioned. I like the phone otherwise but really wish that it also had Touch ID. If Apple doesn't want to mar the front with a physical touch sensor, it can put it on the back; I have an Android phone that has this. If iPhone 14 has both I will quickly upgrade to it.
mynameisvlad 5y ago
I have had no real issues with Face ID. The Apple Watch integration for masks was great and gave me haptic feedback whenever my watch unlocked it, and the new (beta?) feature allowing it to work without a watch works from the get go >90% of times, with the other 10% asking me to look down so it can better map out the eyes. In fact, my iPad Mini is the only device that is Touch ID only and I find I expect it to be unlocked by just looking at it, and always have to remember to tap the power button.
paul7986 5y ago
Indeed the UX of grabbing your phone and it's unlocked in one step is a superior UX. Face ID is three steps. As a UX professional I strive for the simplest UX(less is more). Maybe Apple doesn't strive for the same thing in this regards? I do hope they add Touch ID back to all their phones someday.. fingers crossed!
- marcellus23 5y ago
  > Indeed the UX of grabbing your phone and it's unlocked in one step is a superior UX. Face ID is three steps. I pick up my iPhone and look at it, and its unlocked. I'd be picking it up and looking at it anyway, so that's 0 steps as far as I'm concerned. I don't have to touch it in a particular place with one of a particular set of fingers. Surely as a UX professional you can see how it's at least arguably a much simpler UX?
  - paul7986 5y ago
    Actually its pick it up, then look at it and then swipe up. That's three vs. grabbing your phone with thumb and it opens. Also, if you ever need to open your phone while driving (not a good thing but too many do it) grabbing it with thumb and it unlocking is a lot safer then ... grab it, look at it and swipe up.
    - throwaway4rgf5 5y ago
      >> need to open your phone while driving Or even if it's just sitting on the desk/table/counter/etc. and you want to use it without picking it up. I do this at least 10s of times per day, and for that reason will always own a Touch ID enabled iPhone. Also, it's great they now have "wearing a mask" support, but the "wearing a motorcycle helmet" is still not on the feature radar. Once again, Touch ID is not affected by this.
    - marcellus23 5y ago
      > Actually its pick it up, then look at it and then swipe up. That's three vs. grabbing your phone with thumb and it opens. That's to get to the home screen, not to unlock it. To get to the home screen with a home button, you still have to perform the step of "going to the home screen", but you do it via pressing the button instead of swiping up. Same # of steps -- though to be honest, it's a bit silly to compare this, since what counts as a step? And why are we just comparing steps and not other forms of complexity? At any rate, my point is that it should be very easy for a "UX professional" to see why Face ID is a simpler experience in some cases, if not all. The point being that Touch ID vs. Face ID is a tradeoff, not a clear "one is better than the other".
dillondoyle 5y ago
I also perfect a smaller phone. I'm ok with the 13 but my biggest issue on size is actually the bezel. It's to small so when i type my left hand palm hits the keyboard and switches it to n3mb34s (like that).
fomine3 5y ago
I was pro anti-FaceID because I think as you. Finally I bought 13 mini because I want a decent iPhone and iOS 15.4 public beta has come. I almost satisfied with it. It's not the best as the best fingerprint sensor, but it works most of the time. Even with mask, it just take like less than seconds. It's pain that sometimes not work well when sunlight shines my face.

TMWNN 5y ago

>On one hand, I actually grew to love the current size of iPhones, 13 feels just right. On the other hand, touch id worked so much better for me. Not only with masks in public, but also the fact that I unlocked my phone as I took it out of my pocket and it was unlocked when it was in front of me. Only Sprint offering an amazing upgrade caused me to move to iPhone 13. I really don't like Face ID for the reasons you mentioned. I like the phone otherwise but really wish that it also had Touch ID. If Apple doesn't want to mar the front with a physical touch sensor, it can put it on the back; I have an Android phone that has this. If iPhone 14 has both I will quickly upgrade to it.

mynameisvlad 5y ago

I have had no real issues with Face ID. The Apple Watch integration for masks was great and gave me haptic feedback whenever my watch unlocked it, and the new (beta?) feature allowing it to work without a watch works from the get go >90% of times, with the other 10% asking me to look down so it can better map out the eyes. In fact, my iPad Mini is the only device that is Touch ID only and I find I expect it to be unlocked by just looking at it, and always have to remember to tap the power button.

paul7986 5y ago

Indeed the UX of grabbing your phone and it's unlocked in one step is a superior UX. Face ID is three steps. As a UX professional I strive for the simplest UX(less is more). Maybe Apple doesn't strive for the same thing in this regards? I do hope they add Touch ID back to all their phones someday.. fingers crossed!

marcellus23 5y ago
> Indeed the UX of grabbing your phone and it's unlocked in one step is a superior UX. Face ID is three steps. I pick up my iPhone and look at it, and its unlocked. I'd be picking it up and looking at it anyway, so that's 0 steps as far as I'm concerned. I don't have to touch it in a particular place with one of a particular set of fingers. Surely as a UX professional you can see how it's at least arguably a much simpler UX?
- paul7986 5y ago
  Actually its pick it up, then look at it and then swipe up. That's three vs. grabbing your phone with thumb and it opens. Also, if you ever need to open your phone while driving (not a good thing but too many do it) grabbing it with thumb and it unlocking is a lot safer then ... grab it, look at it and swipe up.
  - throwaway4rgf5 5y ago
    >> need to open your phone while driving Or even if it's just sitting on the desk/table/counter/etc. and you want to use it without picking it up. I do this at least 10s of times per day, and for that reason will always own a Touch ID enabled iPhone. Also, it's great they now have "wearing a mask" support, but the "wearing a motorcycle helmet" is still not on the feature radar. Once again, Touch ID is not affected by this.
  - marcellus23 5y ago
    > Actually its pick it up, then look at it and then swipe up. That's three vs. grabbing your phone with thumb and it opens. That's to get to the home screen, not to unlock it. To get to the home screen with a home button, you still have to perform the step of "going to the home screen", but you do it via pressing the button instead of swiping up. Same # of steps -- though to be honest, it's a bit silly to compare this, since what counts as a step? And why are we just comparing steps and not other forms of complexity? At any rate, my point is that it should be very easy for a "UX professional" to see why Face ID is a simpler experience in some cases, if not all. The point being that Touch ID vs. Face ID is a tradeoff, not a clear "one is better than the other".

dillondoyle 5y ago

I also perfect a smaller phone. I'm ok with the 13 but my biggest issue on size is actually the bezel. It's to small so when i type my left hand palm hits the keyboard and switches it to n3mb34s (like that).

fomine3 5y ago

I was pro anti-FaceID because I think as you. Finally I bought 13 mini because I want a decent iPhone and iOS 15.4 public beta has come. I almost satisfied with it. It's not the best as the best fingerprint sensor, but it works most of the time. Even with mask, it just take like less than seconds. It's pain that sometimes not work well when sunlight shines my face.