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So this is the true Web3 then?

by a1371 5y ago

akomtu 5y ago
No. This thing puts the user first (forgive my corpspeak): it gives us a powerful tool for free. Web3, on the other hand, puts the advertisers first. If this was web3, it would have some useless microtransactions attached to it. I bet that someone behind web3 is thinking hard right now how to stop this torrent thing.
woah 5y ago
It is what people have been referring to as "Web3", yes: https://ipfs.io/#how https://ipfs.io/#how
sergiotapia 5y ago
Yes. The web3 name is being used by crypto-shysters right now so unfortunately they have the lions share of web3 implementation as they call it. But this (OP) is real web3!
quickthrower2 5y ago
I know everyone is fed up with the cliche of web3, but having done some side projects with web3 (as in npm i web3) and ipfs, the posted article here is very exciting. This posted link could be another piece of the jigsaw (Solidity, IPFS, IPNS, ...) that I think will come together to make interesting apps in the future. Solidity doesn't mean necessarily spending $100 to make a function call - there are other chains, off chain stuff being developed, and you could host a private chain for your app. While none of this stuff can do something new you can't do with Postgres - you can create more open and perhaps 'honest' applications where everyone can see the data-engine and understand it. So it is more of a cultural shift. For example, if you make a Twitter this way, you don't need to rely on an API. The data is there for everyone, all of it. For example, take Uniswap. It's not a company like Facebook, it's an open protocol. Swapping tokens is now functionally open source because of that. There is no "Facebook of swapping tokens". And this can be used as a building block for other apps. Not necessarily just "gambling" or "trading" either.
- wahnfrieden 5y ago
  What you’re describing is so 101 level, I don’t mean it in an insulting way but in bewilderment from the typical criticisms from within tech from which you’d think what you’re describing is impossible mythology or completely off the mark
  - anonymouse008 5y ago
    Mind gracing us with a 201+ level? I believe you’re correct, I’m curious to know what you see
    - wahnfrieden 5y ago
      Transparency in business is a hugely interesting area, look at efforts around equal exchange and related schemes for honest products that get workers paid. New financial instruments for ensuring this transparently to funders (whether a commercial transaction/purchaser, or public goods funding, or other sources) is transformative potentially on a political scale, or at least more scalable than other efforts with less dilution to practicalities of traditional commerce. Maybe I’ll have more words to share when I can express it through my current project (which I must add because of concerningly wide quickness to attack, is not eth or ecologically impactful tech)
      - quickthrower2 5y ago
        If mine was 101, this is the second lecture of that same semester.
  - mailbag 5y ago
    can you expand on this some more?
    - wahnfrieden 5y ago
      added thoughts above
- 5y ago

So this is the true Web3 then?

by a1371 5y ago

So this is the true Web3 then?

No. This thing puts the user first (forgive my corpspeak): it gives us a powerful tool for free. Web3, on the other hand, puts the advertisers first. If this was web3, it would have some useless microtransactions attached to it. I bet that someone behind web3 is thinking hard right now how to stop this torrent thing.

woah 5y ago

It is what people have been referring to as "Web3", yes: https://ipfs.io/#how https://ipfs.io/#how

sergiotapia 5y ago

Yes. The web3 name is being used by crypto-shysters right now so unfortunately they have the lions share of web3 implementation as they call it. But this (OP) is real web3!

quickthrower2 5y ago

I know everyone is fed up with the cliche of web3, but having done some side projects with web3 (as in npm i web3) and ipfs, the posted article here is very exciting. This posted link could be another piece of the jigsaw (Solidity, IPFS, IPNS, ...) that I think will come together to make interesting apps in the future. Solidity doesn't mean necessarily spending $100 to make a function call - there are other chains, off chain stuff being developed, and you could host a private chain for your app. While none of this stuff can do something new you can't do with Postgres - you can create more open and perhaps 'honest' applications where everyone can see the data-engine and understand it. So it is more of a cultural shift. For example, if you make a Twitter this way, you don't need to rely on an API. The data is there for everyone, all of it. For example, take Uniswap. It's not a company like Facebook, it's an open protocol. Swapping tokens is now functionally open source because of that. There is no "Facebook of swapping tokens". And this can be used as a building block for other apps. Not necessarily just "gambling" or "trading" either.

wahnfrieden 5y ago
What you’re describing is so 101 level, I don’t mean it in an insulting way but in bewilderment from the typical criticisms from within tech from which you’d think what you’re describing is impossible mythology or completely off the mark
- anonymouse008 5y ago
  Mind gracing us with a 201+ level? I believe you’re correct, I’m curious to know what you see
  - wahnfrieden 5y ago
    Transparency in business is a hugely interesting area, look at efforts around equal exchange and related schemes for honest products that get workers paid. New financial instruments for ensuring this transparently to funders (whether a commercial transaction/purchaser, or public goods funding, or other sources) is transformative potentially on a political scale, or at least more scalable than other efforts with less dilution to practicalities of traditional commerce. Maybe I’ll have more words to share when I can express it through my current project (which I must add because of concerningly wide quickness to attack, is not eth or ecologically impactful tech)
    - quickthrower2 5y ago
      If mine was 101, this is the second lecture of that same semester.
- mailbag 5y ago
  can you expand on this some more?
  - wahnfrieden 5y ago
    added thoughts above
5y ago