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Well, if you'd just let people replace the damn phone's batteries by themselves, you won't have to resort to slowing them down in the first place.

kube-system 5y ago
No, having a user serviceable battery is not a good reason to assume that a user will replace it. Because 90%+ will not, and did not in the days when it was industry standard. Crashing the phone instead of throttling is a bad design choice no matter the serviceability of the battery. I had (and professionally supported) devices in the 00s that did this, and they were not good. People didn’t happily replace their battery and move on with their day, like you might imagine. They made support calls because their phone was constantly crashing and they had no idea why. But they made those calls on their office phone because their cell phone crashed when they tried to call me!
- dartharva 5y ago
  Then why not both? Throttle the performance of those who don't want to do it, but let people replace their phone's batteries if they want without throttling its performance.
  - kube-system 5y ago
    Because products are designed for a target market, and all engineering decisions have multiple consequences. It is normal for mass market products to intentionally remove or never include niche features so that they can better appeal to the broader target market. If you want a niche product, you have to buy a niche product: https://www.samsung.com/us/business/mobile/phones/galaxy-xcover-pro/ https://www.samsung.com/us/business/mobile/phones/galaxy-xco... Why isn't the Galaxy XCover Pro a top selling phone? It has a battery door! The answer is that few buyers care.
    - dartharva 5y ago
      > It is normal for mass market products to intentionally remove or never include niche features so that they can better appeal to the broader target market. Except removable batteries were never a niche feature; most smartphones in the previous generation had removable batteries, and most smartphones today have it too, just glued instead to prevent users from removing them. Apple deliberately denied users that ability to ensure their reliance on its own repair services, and the rest of the industry followed with the same scammy tactic after seeing it getting tolerated by Apple's consumers.

kube-system 5y ago

No, having a user serviceable battery is not a good reason to assume that a user will replace it. Because 90%+ will not, and did not in the days when it was industry standard. Crashing the phone instead of throttling is a bad design choice no matter the serviceability of the battery. I had (and professionally supported) devices in the 00s that did this, and they were not good. People didn’t happily replace their battery and move on with their day, like you might imagine. They made support calls because their phone was constantly crashing and they had no idea why. But they made those calls on their office phone because their cell phone crashed when they tried to call me!

dartharva 5y ago
Then why not both? Throttle the performance of those who don't want to do it, but let people replace their phone's batteries if they want without throttling its performance.
- kube-system 5y ago
  Because products are designed for a target market, and all engineering decisions have multiple consequences. It is normal for mass market products to intentionally remove or never include niche features so that they can better appeal to the broader target market. If you want a niche product, you have to buy a niche product: https://www.samsung.com/us/business/mobile/phones/galaxy-xcover-pro/ https://www.samsung.com/us/business/mobile/phones/galaxy-xco... Why isn't the Galaxy XCover Pro a top selling phone? It has a battery door! The answer is that few buyers care.
  - dartharva 5y ago
    > It is normal for mass market products to intentionally remove or never include niche features so that they can better appeal to the broader target market. Except removable batteries were never a niche feature; most smartphones in the previous generation had removable batteries, and most smartphones today have it too, just glued instead to prevent users from removing them. Apple deliberately denied users that ability to ensure their reliance on its own repair services, and the rest of the industry followed with the same scammy tactic after seeing it getting tolerated by Apple's consumers.