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> USB C/Thunderbolt is the new PCIe bus Oh please hell no. I have to unplug and plug my USB-C camera at least once a day because it gets de-enumerated very ra

by dheera 5y ago

> USB C/Thunderbolt is the new PCIe bus Oh please hell no. I have to unplug and plug my USB-C camera at least once a day because it gets de-enumerated very randomly. Using the best cables I can get my hands on. File transfers to/from USB-C hard drives suddenly stop mid-transfer and corrupt the file system. Don't ask me why, I'm just reporting my experiences, this is the reality of my life that UX researchers don't see because they haven't sent me an e-mail and surveyed me. Never had such problems with PCIe.

droopyEyelids 5y ago
Friendly reminder that USB-C is a form factor, and thunderbolt is the actual transfer protocol. Sounds like you're listing the common complaints with usb-3 over usb-c peripherals, which are not a suitable replacement for PCIe. Thunderbolt is something different, more powerful & more reliable.
- toastal 5y ago
  Thunderbolt 3 is USB4
  - Tepix 5y ago
    USB4 is the successor to USB 3.2 and TB3.
- makeitdouble 5y ago
  Thunderbolt is more reliable, but still weirdly unstable on the software support sometimes. I don't get why we still have external monitor detection issues on macs at this day and age for instance.
delusional 5y ago
You have a very exotic configuration if you plugged your webcam and thumb drives into PCIe slots.
- makeitdouble 5y ago
  Webcam are often positioned as cheapish accessories so PCIe is exotic, but for internal drives (parent's comment wasn't about "thumb" drives) it's pretty mainstream: https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=pcie+drive https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=pcie+drive TBH, even a thumb drive would have me pissed if it disconnected at random times. That's what I hated about using the SD slot of MacBooks to host a semi-permanent drive.
icelancer 5y ago
My USB-C dongle (AMD processor, so not Thunderbolt) that has PD plugged into it permanently and is my "docking station" for the office, and I have to cycle its power (unplug/plug PD) to get the DisplayPort monitor that's connected to it to work, on top of the fact that there are other issues with it, especially with external drives as you also reported. So, I'm in total agreement.

by dheera 5y ago

droopyEyelids 5y ago

Friendly reminder that USB-C is a form factor, and thunderbolt is the actual transfer protocol. Sounds like you're listing the common complaints with usb-3 over usb-c peripherals, which are not a suitable replacement for PCIe. Thunderbolt is something different, more powerful & more reliable.

toastal 5y ago
Thunderbolt 3 is USB4
- Tepix 5y ago
  USB4 is the successor to USB 3.2 and TB3.
makeitdouble 5y ago
Thunderbolt is more reliable, but still weirdly unstable on the software support sometimes. I don't get why we still have external monitor detection issues on macs at this day and age for instance.

delusional 5y ago

You have a very exotic configuration if you plugged your webcam and thumb drives into PCIe slots.

makeitdouble 5y ago
Webcam are often positioned as cheapish accessories so PCIe is exotic, but for internal drives (parent's comment wasn't about "thumb" drives) it's pretty mainstream: https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=pcie+drive https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=pcie+drive TBH, even a thumb drive would have me pissed if it disconnected at random times. That's what I hated about using the SD slot of MacBooks to host a semi-permanent drive.

icelancer 5y ago

My USB-C dongle (AMD processor, so not Thunderbolt) that has PD plugged into it permanently and is my "docking station" for the office, and I have to cycle its power (unplug/plug PD) to get the DisplayPort monitor that's connected to it to work, on top of the fact that there are other issues with it, especially with external drives as you also reported. So, I'm in total agreement.