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> Offer immediate provisional citizenship/asylum to anyone who immigrated to fight. Ukraine is not a wealthy country. Who might consider citizenship so desirab

> Offer immediate provisional citizenship/asylum to anyone who immigrated to fight. Ukraine is not a wealthy country. Who might consider citizenship so desirable to risk his life over it?

CRConrad 5y ago
> Who might consider citizenship so desirable to risk his life over it? For those volunteers who already decided to risk their life for Ukraine that is not an issue. What it does is give them, and the state of Ukraine, an out from accusations of "ruthless soldiers of fortune!" or Western nation-level meddling: "No no, these aren't foreign 'mercenaries', they're our citizens!"
notch656a 5y ago
It would allow those who want to fight to not worry about the repercussions back home. Or at least to lessen them, as they have an escape hatch to at least live in Ukraine afterwards. I imagine a lot of those who volunteered to fight will come back bankrupt, with creditors at their heels and possibly to broken homes. Some of them who come from places like Belarus may even face criminal charges for fighting.
ant6n 5y ago
If Ukraine wins, that Ukraine citizenship is gonna be an EU citizenship in a couple of years.
- culopatin 5y ago
  Riiiight. Why couldn’t they join the EU before the war if that’s the only thing in their way?
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    Because the EU is -- or at the very least, until the 24th of February, was (but if so, I fear they'll revert to form quite soon) -- a bunch of namby-pamby ditherers and cowards. Sad to say it, as an EU citizen myself, but that's about it AFAICS.
- kyriakos 5y ago
  Very unlikely for Ukraine to be fast tracked before countries which are already on their way to become EU members (like North Macedonia and Albania) and those are 5 years away. A lot of reforms are needed and can't happen overnight especially due to its size and population. It is probably going to happen if Ukraine comes out a winner but we are realistically looking at a decade away.

> Offer immediate provisional citizenship/asylum to anyone who immigrated to fight. Ukraine is not a wealthy country. Who might consider citizenship so desirable to risk his life over it?

CRConrad 5y ago

> Who might consider citizenship so desirable to risk his life over it? For those volunteers who already decided to risk their life for Ukraine that is not an issue. What it does is give them, and the state of Ukraine, an out from accusations of "ruthless soldiers of fortune!" or Western nation-level meddling: "No no, these aren't foreign 'mercenaries', they're our citizens!"

notch656a 5y ago

It would allow those who want to fight to not worry about the repercussions back home. Or at least to lessen them, as they have an escape hatch to at least live in Ukraine afterwards. I imagine a lot of those who volunteered to fight will come back bankrupt, with creditors at their heels and possibly to broken homes. Some of them who come from places like Belarus may even face criminal charges for fighting.

ant6n 5y ago

If Ukraine wins, that Ukraine citizenship is gonna be an EU citizenship in a couple of years.

culopatin 5y ago
Riiiight. Why couldn’t they join the EU before the war if that’s the only thing in their way?
- CRConrad 5y ago
  Because the EU is -- or at the very least, until the 24th of February, was (but if so, I fear they'll revert to form quite soon) -- a bunch of namby-pamby ditherers and cowards. Sad to say it, as an EU citizen myself, but that's about it AFAICS.
kyriakos 5y ago
Very unlikely for Ukraine to be fast tracked before countries which are already on their way to become EU members (like North Macedonia and Albania) and those are 5 years away. A lot of reforms are needed and can't happen overnight especially due to its size and population. It is probably going to happen if Ukraine comes out a winner but we are realistically looking at a decade away.