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Apple's ARM chips can process a metric ton of ops per cycle due to the architecture of the chip: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25257932 https://news.ycom
by dljsjr 5y ago
Apple's ARM chips can process a metric ton of ops per cycle due to the architecture of the chip: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25257932 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25257932
- zamadatix 5y agoBut the answer to the question is still "no".
- gjsman-1000 5y agoDoesn't have to though. A Threadripper 3990X uses barrels of electricity, generates plenty of heat, comes with no GPU, has worse single-threaded performance, and still costs $4000 by itself without any of the parts needed to make it actually work.
- Nition 5y agoThe question is in relation to Apple's claim that it's "the world’s most powerful and capable chip for a personal computer".
- gjsman-1000 5y agoDepends on what you define "capable" as. Remember, they specify that it is the most powerful and capable chip, not necessarily complete system. There's no other chip that has the power of an RTX 3090 and more power than an i9-12900K in it - after all, Threadripper doesn't have a lick of graphics power at all. This chip can do 18 8K video streams at once, which Threadripper would get demolished at. I'm content with giving them the chip crown. Full system? Debatable.
- gzer0 5y agoIt might also be reasonable to say that the threadripper is a workstation chip, not a chip for personal computers. Edit: even AMD themselves call their threadripper lineup workstation chips, not personal. https://www.amd.com/en/processors/workstation https://www.amd.com/en/processors/workstation
- kllrnohj 5y agoThreadripper Pro is the workstation chip. Regular Threadripper (non-Pro) was not aimed at workstations, it was aimed at the "HEDT" market. Strictly speaking it's considered a consumer market (albeit for the enthusiasts of enthusiasts)
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 5y agoI'd call them personal chips. When I think of non-personal chips I think IBM POWER or Ampere Altra.
- freemint 5y agoWhy do you think of Altera as non-personal chips?
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 5y agoNot Altera, Ampere Altra. This: https://amperecomputing.com/processors/ampere-altra/ https://amperecomputing.com/processors/ampere-altra/ If the purchase page says to "contact sales" and doesn't list a price then it is not for consumers.
- freemint 5y agoClick where to buy tab, then there is a list of distributors. Including ones which sell workstation versions with a configurator and pricing. https://store.avantek.co.uk/ampere-altra-64bit-arm-workstation.html https://store.avantek.co.uk/ampere-altra-64bit-arm-workstati...
- dathinab 5y agoThrough you would need to compare it to the coming threadripper 5000WX(?) or better the soon coming Ryzen 7000 CPUs (which seen to have integrated graphics). I mean they all are CPUs coming out this year as far as I know.
- zamadatix 5y agoIt's a fantastic chip but that wasn't the question. I love my M1 Max and I love my Threadripper workstation, each has their own strengths and that's alright.
- klelatti 5y agoOnly if the only thing you compare is CPU performance - adding a big GPU on die adds a certain amount of ‘power’ by any measure.
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