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This 5k 27" screens blows your 8k 65" screen out if the water at any reasonable viewing distance for a computer monitor... Nearly no one wants TVs for monitors

This 5k 27" screens blows your 8k 65" screen out if the water at any reasonable viewing distance for a computer monitor... Nearly no one wants TVs for monitors, the evidence is LG's OLEDs which gamers will take 1440p ultrawides with infinitely worse picture quality over, just for the more reasonable form factor.

pedrocr 5y ago
Setting the 8K screen farther away so it fills the same field of view will make it strictly better than the smaller 5K if you can manage it. Same view, more angular resolution and your eyes are focused farther away which reduces eye strain.
- BoorishBears 5y ago
  No it's not, which is why people take $2,000 1440p monitors still. The "if you can manage it" part is an awkward setup usually with terrible ergonomics (a monitor too far away is worse for posture because you subconsciously tilt forward), it takes a ton of space, it looks hideous - Forgive my for my bluntness, but I am soooo tired of every conversation about improving monitors being sidetracked by people act like using a TV-sized TV as a computer monitor is better than strictly anything. It's like saying using your hand saw as a flat head screw driver is strictly better because it had a larger handle... as long as you can line it up in the screw.
  - pedrocr 5y ago
    You may not like it yourself but other people have the opposite experience. Setting the screen farther away and having your eyes focus at that distance is more comfortable for them. That other people choose other solutions doesn't invalidate that this solution exists and is valued by people. And I used the term strictly precisely. If you can manage that setup physically you get the same angle of view, more resolution and less eye strain. The 8K large screen dominates the 5K small screen solution for that set of criteria. If you add other criteria you care about instead the evaluation changes.
    - BoorishBears 5y ago
      You're using strictly in a way that's the opposite of precise when you need to preface it with a barn sized caveat. In fact your suggestion is worse than standard, most people accept you'll never sit far enough away from a 65" TV to have the same apparent size as a 27" monitor and settle for "small enough" apparent size - I can't be bothered to do the exact math here but even at normal TV viewing distanced meant to fill your entire view the recommended distance is 5.5ft to 8ft. Getting it down to the same apparent size of a 27" monitor would mean sitting across a very large room...
      - jimrandomh 5y ago
        That's the wrong approach. When I want a centered 27" rectangle, I use software to put a 27" rectangle in the spot where I want it. I never fullscreen anything, and put secondary things around the edges, the way one would use extra monitors. There are some minor software issues to work through, it definitely requires some customization in the window manager department, but it's worth it imo.
        BoorishBears 5y ago
        Ok... but then you have significantly worse pixel density than a 5k monitor. There's no way to have your cake and eat it too on this, either you'll have worse pixel density, or you'll need a very unnatural setup.
        jimrandomh 5y ago
        8k/65in has the same pixel density as a 4k/32.5in, which is mid-range as computer monitors go. 16k would be nice if that was possible to buy, but this pixel density is good enough for my purposes.
        BoorishBears 5y ago
        4k/32" might as well be 1440p compared to 5k/27" You talking to someone who upgraded from a 4k/32" equivalent ("5k" 40" ultrawide) to the XDR just for the pixel density increase, and it's no contest at all: even the most casual PC user would immediately appreciate the bump.
seventhtiger 5y ago
I use a 48" 4k 120hz HDR LG OLED. It's by far the best electronic purchase I've ever made in terms of productivity and entertainment. It has a bulky monitor stand, but an Ergotron will allow you to mount it on an arm secured to the desk with enough range to move it right to the edge of the desk. You could also mount it on the wall. So as long as you have a wider desk, like 27" which are available at Ikea, you're good to go. With a good window manager you can do magic with this monitor.

pedrocr 5y ago

Setting the 8K screen farther away so it fills the same field of view will make it strictly better than the smaller 5K if you can manage it. Same view, more angular resolution and your eyes are focused farther away which reduces eye strain.

BoorishBears 5y ago
No it's not, which is why people take $2,000 1440p monitors still. The "if you can manage it" part is an awkward setup usually with terrible ergonomics (a monitor too far away is worse for posture because you subconsciously tilt forward), it takes a ton of space, it looks hideous - Forgive my for my bluntness, but I am soooo tired of every conversation about improving monitors being sidetracked by people act like using a TV-sized TV as a computer monitor is better than strictly anything. It's like saying using your hand saw as a flat head screw driver is strictly better because it had a larger handle... as long as you can line it up in the screw.
- pedrocr 5y ago
  You may not like it yourself but other people have the opposite experience. Setting the screen farther away and having your eyes focus at that distance is more comfortable for them. That other people choose other solutions doesn't invalidate that this solution exists and is valued by people. And I used the term strictly precisely. If you can manage that setup physically you get the same angle of view, more resolution and less eye strain. The 8K large screen dominates the 5K small screen solution for that set of criteria. If you add other criteria you care about instead the evaluation changes.
  - BoorishBears 5y ago
    You're using strictly in a way that's the opposite of precise when you need to preface it with a barn sized caveat. In fact your suggestion is worse than standard, most people accept you'll never sit far enough away from a 65" TV to have the same apparent size as a 27" monitor and settle for "small enough" apparent size - I can't be bothered to do the exact math here but even at normal TV viewing distanced meant to fill your entire view the recommended distance is 5.5ft to 8ft. Getting it down to the same apparent size of a 27" monitor would mean sitting across a very large room...
    - jimrandomh 5y ago
      That's the wrong approach. When I want a centered 27" rectangle, I use software to put a 27" rectangle in the spot where I want it. I never fullscreen anything, and put secondary things around the edges, the way one would use extra monitors. There are some minor software issues to work through, it definitely requires some customization in the window manager department, but it's worth it imo.
      - BoorishBears 5y ago
        Ok... but then you have significantly worse pixel density than a 5k monitor. There's no way to have your cake and eat it too on this, either you'll have worse pixel density, or you'll need a very unnatural setup.
        jimrandomh 5y ago
        8k/65in has the same pixel density as a 4k/32.5in, which is mid-range as computer monitors go. 16k would be nice if that was possible to buy, but this pixel density is good enough for my purposes.
        BoorishBears 5y ago
        4k/32" might as well be 1440p compared to 5k/27" You talking to someone who upgraded from a 4k/32" equivalent ("5k" 40" ultrawide) to the XDR just for the pixel density increase, and it's no contest at all: even the most casual PC user would immediately appreciate the bump.

seventhtiger 5y ago

I use a 48" 4k 120hz HDR LG OLED. It's by far the best electronic purchase I've ever made in terms of productivity and entertainment. It has a bulky monitor stand, but an Ergotron will allow you to mount it on an arm secured to the desk with enough range to move it right to the edge of the desk. You could also mount it on the wall. So as long as you have a wider desk, like 27" which are available at Ikea, you're good to go. With a good window manager you can do magic with this monitor.