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What? It's a whole new tower with PCIe slots and everything, and was super well received. Were you still under the impression they were selling the trashcan Mac

What? It's a whole new tower with PCIe slots and everything, and was super well received. Were you still under the impression they were selling the trashcan Mac Pro?

unfocussed_mike 5y ago
I simply forgot that they made it. I forgot a lot of stuff in 2020 and 2021, like most people. But by extension I certainly don't remember it being "super well received", or I'd probably have remembered it at all. Either way: look at it. It's a tower PC. Do you think the current Apple trajectory has any meaningful room for that? What are people going to really be putting in it except disks?
- karlshea 5y ago
  If all you want is disks then the Mac Studio seems to be exactly what you'd want. I would assume people that want a tower want exactly what you were asking for above, which is GPUs or other cards like audio engineers need. I didn't see a single negative review of the tower at all, so I'm really not sure where that comes from. And they said during the keynote today a new one is coming.
- cpuguy83 5y ago
  "I forgot about it so it must not be great". It's an amazing machine. It's an incredibly expensive machine, but still amazing. > Do you think the current Apple trajectory has any meaningful room for that? Are you upset that you think Apple is going to stop making something that you forgot they made, except there is absolutely 0 evidence that they will stop making it? We know for a fact that they are going to release a new Apple Silicon based Mac Pro. We knew Mac Pro would be the last thing they move over to Apple Silicon. Apple even gave a timeline when they first launched M1, and so far it seems to be on track. Apple has been extremely pragmatic lately, backtracking on objectively bad decisions around everything from keyboards and ports to form factors.
  - unfocussed_mike 5y ago
    > "I forgot about it so it must not be great". I didn't phrase it that way, but thanks, I guess. Whatever. > Are you upset that you think Apple is going to stop making something that you forgot they made, except there is absolutely 0 evidence that they will stop making it? I didn't say they'd stop making it, quite. So much as that I think the product designation is a phantom, in a way. And the more alternatives they add to the Mac Pro, the less the market needs it. How many people who bought the forgettable machine put an expansion card in it, do you think? How many of those people thus simply do not need anything more than the Studio? And also: how many third party manufacturers are going to rush out of the gate to port their drivers to some complex new multiprocessing M1 machine? I agree they have been pragmatic. But I think they've also sliced and diced this segment to the point where it doesn't make the sense it did.
  - fastball 5y ago
    They've been very pragmatic ever since Jony Ive left.
- kiratp 5y ago
  Here is the target market https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIQINCWMd6I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIQINCWMd6I This is Apple's core creative audience.

What? It's a whole new tower with PCIe slots and everything, and was super well received. Were you still under the impression they were selling the trashcan Mac Pro?

unfocussed_mike 5y ago

I simply forgot that they made it. I forgot a lot of stuff in 2020 and 2021, like most people. But by extension I certainly don't remember it being "super well received", or I'd probably have remembered it at all. Either way: look at it. It's a tower PC. Do you think the current Apple trajectory has any meaningful room for that? What are people going to really be putting in it except disks?

karlshea 5y ago
If all you want is disks then the Mac Studio seems to be exactly what you'd want. I would assume people that want a tower want exactly what you were asking for above, which is GPUs or other cards like audio engineers need. I didn't see a single negative review of the tower at all, so I'm really not sure where that comes from. And they said during the keynote today a new one is coming.
cpuguy83 5y ago
"I forgot about it so it must not be great". It's an amazing machine. It's an incredibly expensive machine, but still amazing. > Do you think the current Apple trajectory has any meaningful room for that? Are you upset that you think Apple is going to stop making something that you forgot they made, except there is absolutely 0 evidence that they will stop making it? We know for a fact that they are going to release a new Apple Silicon based Mac Pro. We knew Mac Pro would be the last thing they move over to Apple Silicon. Apple even gave a timeline when they first launched M1, and so far it seems to be on track. Apple has been extremely pragmatic lately, backtracking on objectively bad decisions around everything from keyboards and ports to form factors.
- unfocussed_mike 5y ago
  > "I forgot about it so it must not be great". I didn't phrase it that way, but thanks, I guess. Whatever. > Are you upset that you think Apple is going to stop making something that you forgot they made, except there is absolutely 0 evidence that they will stop making it? I didn't say they'd stop making it, quite. So much as that I think the product designation is a phantom, in a way. And the more alternatives they add to the Mac Pro, the less the market needs it. How many people who bought the forgettable machine put an expansion card in it, do you think? How many of those people thus simply do not need anything more than the Studio? And also: how many third party manufacturers are going to rush out of the gate to port their drivers to some complex new multiprocessing M1 machine? I agree they have been pragmatic. But I think they've also sliced and diced this segment to the point where it doesn't make the sense it did.
- fastball 5y ago
  They've been very pragmatic ever since Jony Ive left.
kiratp 5y ago
Here is the target market https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIQINCWMd6I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIQINCWMd6I This is Apple's core creative audience.