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It's insane how boldly (for Apple) they focused on ports and cables. I can't remember a previous demo video that showed so many ugly cables hanging out the back
by rconti 5y ago
It's insane how boldly (for Apple) they focused on ports and cables. I can't remember a previous demo video that showed so many ugly cables hanging out the back of the machine. They've finally realized it's a selling point!
- ilamont 5y agoMy jaw hit the floor when I saw USB A ports. If only it had multiple HDMI ...
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- brailsafe 5y agoWhat would you use multiple HDMI ports for? Do you exclusively use HDMI only screens/tv?
- ilamont 5y agoSo I don't have to use a dongle for a second screen. They break, come loose, and sometimes don't work with Apple equipment.
- radlad 5y agoNo need for a dongle. Thunderbolt/USBC-DisplayPort cables exist.
- runjake 5y agoI do this, and it supports 144 hz.
- girvo 5y agoI do this, and sadly it won’t do 4K at 144hz, at least not with my Intel MacBook. Maybe the M1 can do it?
- FireBeyond 5y agoBecause Apple broke DSC right back at Big Sur, and hasn't bothered to fix it (at least for Intel) ever since.
- drorco 5y agoI haven't yet seen screens with USB-C support that have refresh rates higher than 60hz, unfortunately.
- radlad 5y agoWhy does the screen need USB-C support? I imagine you'd use a Thunderbolt/USBC-DisplayPort cable or similar.
- drorco 5y agoFor cases when you have let's say a gaming PC and a Macbook connected to the same screen. You want a USB-C port so the Macbook will get everything from a single USB-C port (power included), but you also want your gaming PC to benefit from a high performance monitor with high refresh rates on a DisplayPort/HDMI connection.
- brailsafe 5y agoYa agreed. I have a similar setup and would love an easy was for both to use the same screen and peripherals
- radlad 5y agoIsn't this what a dock is for? Are you treating your monitor itself as the dock? I still don't see why the monitor itself needs USB-C support. I use a Lenovo Thunderbolt dock for both my M1 16" MBP and a Lenovo laptop running Linux. It runs 2 x DisplayPort monitors, mouse, keyboard, and webcam.
- paulmd 5y agoyes, basically the idea is with a USB-C display the monitor can be your dock
- sofixa 5y ago> Isn't this what a dock is for? Are you treating your monitor itself as the dock Yep. There are monitors with Type-C, power delivery, usb hub, so they avoid you the need of having a dock. Usually they're priced at around monitor+fancy dock, so it doesn't even cost more for more practicality.
- scottkuo 5y agoDrive additional outputs to broadcast/production displays
- OmahaBoy69 5y agoUsing my two monitors. They support HDMI and VGA. Pretty standard stuff.
- runjake 5y agoThey did better with the limited space they have — they included a bunch of multi-functional USB-C ports that can be used with dongles for additional HDMI ports!
- assttoasstmgr 5y agoAre you referring to the front panel which is about 3.5" high x 7.7" wide and about 90% an empty blank face?
- yupper32 5y ago"With the limited space they have"? They chose how much space they had to work with...
- dylan604 5y agoBecause nobody outside hardcore computer nerds wants a beige box tower with 14 drive bays sitting on their desk. People want quite little boxes that gets work done without having to have dedicated room for loud machines.
- assttoasstmgr 5y agoThere is plenty of room for a second HDMI port (or mini DP) especially if they went to a vertical configuration for HDMI.
- dylan604 5y agoSo your opinion is that you want it. My opinion is I don't. HDMI is much more limiting. Say that you're a manufacturer trying to keep an eye towards wants new vs supporting what's old, what decisions do you make to support new and retro without increasing the costs? At some point, having backseat decision makers giving input results in the car designed by Homer. Of all of the things I've personally railed on Apple about in the past as well as others, their most recent HW offerings have been a great compromise. They've brought back some USB-A, SD card reader, HDMI, etc. They realized they've gone too far in certain areas, but some how they had a come to Jeebus meeting that reigned them back in.
- G3rn0ti 5y ago> My jaw hit the floor when I saw USB A ports. Don‘t forget the headphone jack!
- jdminhbg 5y agoI don't think there are any Macs that don't have a headphone jack, with the possible exception of the Mac Pro.
- kemotep 5y agoThe current model Mac Pro at least supports add-in PCIe cards. So you are only 1 sound card away from having as many headphone and other audio jacks that you want.
- xinnar 5y agoFWIW the current Mac Pro has a headphone jack. It's at the top to the left of the USB-A ports. https://www.apple.com/mac-pro/specs/ https://www.apple.com/mac-pro/specs/
- arvinsim 5y agoSo much for the "people don't use headphone jacks anymore" argument for the phones.
- iainmerrick 5y agoBut (to be picky) why is it on the back??? I mean, if you're going to break with Apple tradition and have visible ports on the front, seems like you'd want the headphone jack to be one of them.
- littlecranky67 5y agoProbably because Studio/Professional Headphones come with long coords by default.
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- bowmessage 5y agoso brave!
- assttoasstmgr 5y agoAnd yet none on the front. So your shoebox full of thumb drives are useless and you have to plug them in from behind. Just to be clear yes I know USB-C thumb drives exist but they are next to useless because their whole purpose is to shuttle files between devices. Devices that likely don't have USB-C yet.
- scns 5y agoI gifted a thumb drive with USB A on one side and USB C on the other.
- dev_tty01 5y agoYes, these are great. Highly recommended.
- dylan604 5y agojust connect that USB-A hub you know you already have and plug in all the USB-A thumb drives you can fit.
- assttoasstmgr 5y agoApple is one of the world's biggest proliferators of e-waste through indirect means. No charger with the new phone huh? Well it's USB-C cable won't fit your old charger or computer either. USB-A is the de-facto standard for thumb drives. Are we all just supposed to throw them away overnight because Apple blessed us with computers without USB-A ports? Or, they'll sell you a dongle for $19 which can be had on Aliexpress for $0.75. Would it have killed them to throw an extra USB-A 3.x port on the nearly empty front panel? It carries nearly the same signals as USB-C minus power delivery. No, this was a purely aesthetic decision. Apple could design a brick PC with no ports besides power and people would still pleasure themselves into a coma at the thought of spending $2k on such a grotesque monstrosity.
- dylan604 5y agoOkay, so don't give them your business. I'm sure you're protest with your wallet will have Apple contemplating their "0 thought applied to their decision" for the next go round. If you are willing to buy a $0.75 anything from Alibaba and trust it with your precious data, you do you. As I've already suggested, you more than likely already have everything you need in a drawer, on your desktop, etc that will allow multiple USB-A devices to connect through a single port.
- ChrisMarshallNY 5y ago> If only it had multiple HDMI They have multiple TB4 ports. I'm not sure if their USBC ports are video-compatible. If you get the ultra, then the front ones are TB4, as well.
- jollybean 5y agoOn that kind of device it doesn't cost them much and those features are more appreciated. It's not much of a war. On the laptops it becomes a bit more of a design conundrum. I'd imagine they have different leadership teams, and, Jobs + Ive are both gone. So there's that.