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And what is going to be gained by allowing RT to be uncensored? Their official ""truth"" is that Ukraine is full of/run by Nazis, thus Russia invaded. They've a

by seized 5y ago

And what is going to be gained by allowing RT to be uncensored? Their official ""truth"" is that Ukraine is full of/run by Nazis, thus Russia invaded. They've already told the world that. What are you expecting to hear? Besides, there are other channels for real official truth. Not that Putin will give it.

aa-jv 5y ago
>What are you expecting to hear? I want to hear what the Russian people are being told, and I don't want to hear that from 'my sides talking heads', I want to hear it from the perspective of the Russian peoples' own media - without an autocratic authority figure well-known for war-profiteering telling me what to think, I'd rather like to make my own judgement. Are 'we' so stupid as to not trust our own peoples' ability to observe "obvious propaganda" and come away unaffected, or is it rather that, by censoring Russia, we admit that our own education systems have failed so dismally in the West, that we simply can't trust "The Stupid People" not to fall for 'obvious Russian propaganda'? I think there is very much an autocratic bent to the reasoning so far.
- iso1210 5y ago
  RT in Europe is in English, not Russian, so it's not what Russian people are being told
  - aa-jv 5y ago
    So? I still want to see, for myself, what the Russian Propaganda Machine is doing. Why should I be blinded by the prejudices of autocrats? Besides which .. RT is available in Russian all over Europe, so unless you have further evidence that RT-Europe != RT-Russia, this is irrelevant.
- ptx 5y ago
  > I want to hear what the Russian people are being told Me too, but I don't think the Russian people are the main audience for the English, Spanish and French versions of RT. We'll have to rely on translations, from other sources, of the actual Russian news to find out what the Russians are being told.

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And what is going to be gained by allowing RT to be uncensored? Their official ""truth"" is that Ukraine is full of/run by Nazis, thus Russia invaded. They've a

by seized 5y ago

aa-jv 5y ago
>What are you expecting to hear? I want to hear what the Russian people are being told, and I don't want to hear that from 'my sides talking heads', I want to hear it from the perspective of the Russian peoples' own media - without an autocratic authority figure well-known for war-profiteering telling me what to think, I'd rather like to make my own judgement. Are 'we' so stupid as to not trust our own peoples' ability to observe "obvious propaganda" and come away unaffected, or is it rather that, by censoring Russia, we admit that our own education systems have failed so dismally in the West, that we simply can't trust "The Stupid People" not to fall for 'obvious Russian propaganda'? I think there is very much an autocratic bent to the reasoning so far.
- iso1210 5y ago
  RT in Europe is in English, not Russian, so it's not what Russian people are being told
  - aa-jv 5y ago
    So? I still want to see, for myself, what the Russian Propaganda Machine is doing. Why should I be blinded by the prejudices of autocrats? Besides which .. RT is available in Russian all over Europe, so unless you have further evidence that RT-Europe != RT-Russia, this is irrelevant.
- ptx 5y ago
  > I want to hear what the Russian people are being told Me too, but I don't think the Russian people are the main audience for the English, Spanish and French versions of RT. We'll have to rely on translations, from other sources, of the actual Russian news to find out what the Russians are being told.