4 ms·
>Kyiv cannot hold out forever. I agree with that, but if it takes going Full Grozny or Idlib on them, what's the point, other than saving face?
by xxpor 5y ago
>Kyiv cannot hold out forever.
I agree with that, but if it takes going Full Grozny or Idlib on them, what's the point, other than saving face?
- twblalock 5y agoSaving face matters a lot for dictators, who often lose power if they embarrass their countries. For Putin this is now a matter of personal survival. He will do whatever it takes to avoid an outcome that makes him look weak to the Russian public -- he clearly doesn't care what the rest of the world thinks of him at this point.
- menomatter 5y agoYou mean Alleppo. Idlib still under opposition/Turkish proxies.
- xxpor 5y agoAh damn, you're right. Can't believe I mixed them up.
- s1artibartfast 5y agoFrom the Russian perspective: If the country wont agree to NATO neutrality, the next best outcome is destroying it so thoroughly that it will be a humanitarian disaster for decades to come. The former is a much more attractive option to them because it would pose the lest threat. The second is still favorable to a prosperous NATO and EU member.
- deleted 5y ago[deleted]