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When US invaded Iraq (because of false claims about weapons of mass destruction), people did not call random numbers in America. And ordinary Americans did not

When US invaded Iraq (because of false claims about weapons of mass destruction), people did not call random numbers in America. And ordinary Americans did not do anything to stop their government from invading another country on false premises.

mzs 5y ago
Excuse me I was outside with a sign protesting even before the invasion when the votes were being counted in FL then I volunteered for the campaign for a primary challenger after and I certainly had numerous calls from my relatives in Germany where we talked about Iraq.
fourseventy 5y ago
lol exactly. People in the USA seem to have selective amnesia about the time America invaded a sovereign nation based on false premises.
saurik 5y ago
So are you saying maybe people should have called random numbers in the United States?
elliekelly 5y ago
I posted a few days ago about how seeing Canadians protest against the war in Iraq made me question the premise of the US invasion. It’s not the same as a phone call and I didn’t have any say in the matter because I was only a teenager but I do think the perspective of an “outsider” can sometimes shake you out of blind acceptance or at least put some cracks in the foundation. I suspect a “trusted” outsider would be a lot more persuasive, though. A phone call from a random Belarusian or Kazakhstani would probably carry a lot more weight than a random Westerner.
q1w2 5y ago
Iraq was a dictatorship with a murderer at the head. Ukraine is a democracy. HUGE difference.
- drno123 5y ago
  And yet, instead of killing/imprisoning the dictator, US-led invasion resulted in many civilians killed, their houses destroyed, not to mention drone strikes against civilians. If (many) innocent people get killed in the end, I see no big difference.
  - q1w2 5y ago
    Except that the US literally did capture, try, and executed Saddam Hussein. The vast majority of the death in Iraq occurred from sectarian violence fomented by Iran and later Sunni extremists, to undermine the prospect of having an American ally in the region.
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mzs 5y ago

Excuse me I was outside with a sign protesting even before the invasion when the votes were being counted in FL then I volunteered for the campaign for a primary challenger after and I certainly had numerous calls from my relatives in Germany where we talked about Iraq.

fourseventy 5y ago

lol exactly. People in the USA seem to have selective amnesia about the time America invaded a sovereign nation based on false premises.

saurik 5y ago

So are you saying maybe people should have called random numbers in the United States?

elliekelly 5y ago

I posted a few days ago about how seeing Canadians protest against the war in Iraq made me question the premise of the US invasion. It’s not the same as a phone call and I didn’t have any say in the matter because I was only a teenager but I do think the perspective of an “outsider” can sometimes shake you out of blind acceptance or at least put some cracks in the foundation. I suspect a “trusted” outsider would be a lot more persuasive, though. A phone call from a random Belarusian or Kazakhstani would probably carry a lot more weight than a random Westerner.

q1w2 5y ago

Iraq was a dictatorship with a murderer at the head. Ukraine is a democracy. HUGE difference.

drno123 5y ago
And yet, instead of killing/imprisoning the dictator, US-led invasion resulted in many civilians killed, their houses destroyed, not to mention drone strikes against civilians. If (many) innocent people get killed in the end, I see no big difference.
- q1w2 5y ago
  Except that the US literally did capture, try, and executed Saddam Hussein. The vast majority of the death in Iraq occurred from sectarian violence fomented by Iran and later Sunni extremists, to undermine the prospect of having an American ally in the region.
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