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Their country is killing thousands of innocent men, women, children, grandparents, babies etc. The West needs to prioritize on worrying about whats best for Ukr

Their country is killing thousands of innocent men, women, children, grandparents, babies etc. The West needs to prioritize on worrying about whats best for Ukraine, and saving their lives. Have more sympathy for them. Once Russia lays down arms and skidaddles back across their border perhaps we start feeling sympathy for the invaders then. What Russians need to do now is pick sides. Take a stand against Putin, or, leave Russia. Stay home & keep quiet? They Own him. His deeds. His mass murders. Zero sympathy for evil.

thebean11 5y ago
Very easy for us westerners to criticize Russians for not protesting. I wonder if you'd be protesting if you lived in a place where doing so could get you killed?
- syngrog66 5y ago
  Putin has been in power there for 20 years. Been attacking neighbor nations for at least 14 years, offhand. He has a clear track record. Info has been out there, and for a looooong time ordinary Russians were able to get facts, if they wished. They've had plenty of time to move away. Some have. Some chose to stay. These are the consequences of the choices they made.
  - thebean11 5y ago
    Again, easy for someone who has never been in circumstances like that to judge.
colejohnson66 5y ago
People have been protesting; So far, 13,000 have been arrested.[0] Remember: Russia's judicial system is not the same as the US'. It's easy to armchair criticize when your life isn’t on the line. Is it North Korea's citizens' fault that they have a dictator? After all, they do have a "democracy" where Kim Jong-un is "elected": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_North_Korea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_North_Korea [0]: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-police-arrest-13k-protesters-as-ukraine-invasion-opposition-surges/ar-AAUMKLp https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-police-arrest-1...
- syngrog66 5y ago
  Great. I have massive respect for any Russian who has stood up. Hopefully they set an example and embolden more. There are several ways Putin can exit office, or exit the world. In the best scenario for everyone, the Russian people should make it happen. Thats a thing they get to choose. The kind of future they want. I bet that ordinary Russians dont want to wake up in a nuke wasteland, eg, and no American, European or anyone else wants to either. Because that is madness. But the Kremlin is a wild card now, and credible reports is they simply dont have the kinds of safeguards and mediating forces that most Western nuke powers do. Best if Russians themselves show him the door, before its too late for anyone. We really cannot over-emphasize the seriousness of the stakes now. For humanity. Russians best step up, show the rest of us what kind of people they are, down in their hearts. Now or never.
jbay808 5y ago
Did you call on Americans to leave the US during the war in Iraq?
tpoacher 5y ago
What a weird comment. Victim blaming at its finest. By the same logic Ukrainians can stop resisting and prevent WW3. Is it "Zero sympathy for evil Ukrainians wishing WW3?".
- syngrog66 5y ago
  one of the most Orwellian gaslighting replies I've seen on HN to date. wow

thebean11 5y ago

Very easy for us westerners to criticize Russians for not protesting. I wonder if you'd be protesting if you lived in a place where doing so could get you killed?

syngrog66 5y ago
Putin has been in power there for 20 years. Been attacking neighbor nations for at least 14 years, offhand. He has a clear track record. Info has been out there, and for a looooong time ordinary Russians were able to get facts, if they wished. They've had plenty of time to move away. Some have. Some chose to stay. These are the consequences of the choices they made.
- thebean11 5y ago
  Again, easy for someone who has never been in circumstances like that to judge.

colejohnson66 5y ago

People have been protesting; So far, 13,000 have been arrested.[0] Remember: Russia's judicial system is not the same as the US'. It's easy to armchair criticize when your life isn’t on the line. Is it North Korea's citizens' fault that they have a dictator? After all, they do have a "democracy" where Kim Jong-un is "elected": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_North_Korea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_North_Korea [0]: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-police-arrest-13k-protesters-as-ukraine-invasion-opposition-surges/ar-AAUMKLp https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-police-arrest-1...

syngrog66 5y ago
Great. I have massive respect for any Russian who has stood up. Hopefully they set an example and embolden more. There are several ways Putin can exit office, or exit the world. In the best scenario for everyone, the Russian people should make it happen. Thats a thing they get to choose. The kind of future they want. I bet that ordinary Russians dont want to wake up in a nuke wasteland, eg, and no American, European or anyone else wants to either. Because that is madness. But the Kremlin is a wild card now, and credible reports is they simply dont have the kinds of safeguards and mediating forces that most Western nuke powers do. Best if Russians themselves show him the door, before its too late for anyone. We really cannot over-emphasize the seriousness of the stakes now. For humanity. Russians best step up, show the rest of us what kind of people they are, down in their hearts. Now or never.

jbay808 5y ago

Did you call on Americans to leave the US during the war in Iraq?

tpoacher 5y ago

What a weird comment. Victim blaming at its finest. By the same logic Ukrainians can stop resisting and prevent WW3. Is it "Zero sympathy for evil Ukrainians wishing WW3?".

syngrog66 5y ago
one of the most Orwellian gaslighting replies I've seen on HN to date. wow