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Consider donating to Da Silva's campaign (if that is possible). If he wins, there's some chance of reversing Bolsonaro's recent neglect. He's by no means perfec

Consider donating to Da Silva's campaign (if that is possible). If he wins, there's some chance of reversing Bolsonaro's recent neglect. He's by no means perfect, but he's certainly better on the environment (and forest policy) than the right. https://newint.org/features/2021/08/09/interview-luiz-inacio-lula-da-silva https://newint.org/features/2021/08/09/interview-luiz-inacio...

gberger 5y ago
> Da Silva He is known in Brazil as Lula. Only Brazilians can legally donate to political campaigns, so you might as well refer to the candidate as he is known among the possible donors.
- smallerfish 5y ago
  Yeah, fair enough. Are there organizations who foreigners can legally donate to who work on get-out-the-vote or other voter base initiatives that would benefit him?
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quirino 5y ago
Some context: Lula currently has 41% of voting intentions (against Bolsonaro's 26%) [1]. He was elected president twice, from 2003 to 2010. He's a very contested figure in Brazil. On the one hand, he earned popularity for creating social welfare programs such as Bolsa Família [2]. On the other, he's been involved in various corruption scandals, including the Mensalão vote-buying scandal [3] and the Petrobras scandal [4], one of the biggest the world has seen. [1] https://www.em.com.br/app/noticia/politica/2022/02/21/interna_politica,1346478/lula-lidera-intencoes-de-voto-com-41-bolsonaro-tem-26-diz-pesquisa.shtml https://www.em.com.br/app/noticia/politica/2022/02/21/intern... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsa_Fam%C3%ADlia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsa_Fam%C3%ADlia [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensal%C3%A3o_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensal%C3%A3o_scandal [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Car_Wash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Car_Wash
- piva00 5y ago
  Some more context, Bolsa Família wasn't actually created but became an umbrella social program to simplify all social benefits that were split into multiple programs before Lula. Mensalão happened, and the Petrobras scandal, both involves much more than just Lula, it's how politics in Brazil work. Car Wash involved virtually every single party in Brazil, Mensalão involved every single one of the "center" parties (we should just call them "opportunistic parties") in Brazil. At the same time, Lula's government lifted tens of millions of people out of poverty, kickstarted numerous infrastructure projects for the poorest areas of Brazil and so on. Everything is a double-edged sword in Brazilian politics, given the prospects for the next 5-10 years I don't see any other politician than Lula that has enough political clout to beat Bolsonaro while implementing social policies such as Lula's previous governments.
blastonico 5y ago
Yes, donate your money to the man behind the world's largest corruption scandal. I'm sure your money will be in good hands. hehe
jafoi 5y ago
akemichan 5y ago
Oh come on, you can't expect any good from one of the most corrupt men of South America? Really? He's from the same corrupt political lineage as the Kirchner family in Argentina, do you really want to fund the people that only mange to bring misery to these countries? The interview you link is just our everyday populist discourse: show yourself aligned to whatever is the hop topic of the moment, get elected, do nothing about it and continue to use the power to finance your own corrupt agenda. Didn't work? No worries, you can always use the "heavy heritage" from Bolsonaro as an excuse.
- gassiss 5y ago
  Honestly, whatever it takes to take Bolsonaro out is fair game imo
  - akemichan 5y ago
    If Lula Da Silva is fair game then I really have nothing more to say.

gberger 5y ago

> Da Silva He is known in Brazil as Lula. Only Brazilians can legally donate to political campaigns, so you might as well refer to the candidate as he is known among the possible donors.

smallerfish 5y ago
Yeah, fair enough. Are there organizations who foreigners can legally donate to who work on get-out-the-vote or other voter base initiatives that would benefit him?

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quirino 5y ago

Some context: Lula currently has 41% of voting intentions (against Bolsonaro's 26%) [1]. He was elected president twice, from 2003 to 2010. He's a very contested figure in Brazil. On the one hand, he earned popularity for creating social welfare programs such as Bolsa Família [2]. On the other, he's been involved in various corruption scandals, including the Mensalão vote-buying scandal [3] and the Petrobras scandal [4], one of the biggest the world has seen. [1] https://www.em.com.br/app/noticia/politica/2022/02/21/interna_politica,1346478/lula-lidera-intencoes-de-voto-com-41-bolsonaro-tem-26-diz-pesquisa.shtml https://www.em.com.br/app/noticia/politica/2022/02/21/intern... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsa_Fam%C3%ADlia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsa_Fam%C3%ADlia [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensal%C3%A3o_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensal%C3%A3o_scandal [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Car_Wash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Car_Wash

piva00 5y ago
Some more context, Bolsa Família wasn't actually created but became an umbrella social program to simplify all social benefits that were split into multiple programs before Lula. Mensalão happened, and the Petrobras scandal, both involves much more than just Lula, it's how politics in Brazil work. Car Wash involved virtually every single party in Brazil, Mensalão involved every single one of the "center" parties (we should just call them "opportunistic parties") in Brazil. At the same time, Lula's government lifted tens of millions of people out of poverty, kickstarted numerous infrastructure projects for the poorest areas of Brazil and so on. Everything is a double-edged sword in Brazilian politics, given the prospects for the next 5-10 years I don't see any other politician than Lula that has enough political clout to beat Bolsonaro while implementing social policies such as Lula's previous governments.

blastonico 5y ago

Yes, donate your money to the man behind the world's largest corruption scandal. I'm sure your money will be in good hands. hehe

jafoi 5y ago

akemichan 5y ago

Oh come on, you can't expect any good from one of the most corrupt men of South America? Really? He's from the same corrupt political lineage as the Kirchner family in Argentina, do you really want to fund the people that only mange to bring misery to these countries? The interview you link is just our everyday populist discourse: show yourself aligned to whatever is the hop topic of the moment, get elected, do nothing about it and continue to use the power to finance your own corrupt agenda. Didn't work? No worries, you can always use the "heavy heritage" from Bolsonaro as an excuse.

gassiss 5y ago
Honestly, whatever it takes to take Bolsonaro out is fair game imo
- akemichan 5y ago
  If Lula Da Silva is fair game then I really have nothing more to say.