But you still know what price you're going to pay ahead of time. With dealers anymore, they make you hustle to get some of that markup knocked off, then once y

But you still know what price you're going to pay ahead of time. With dealers anymore, they make you hustle to get some of that markup knocked off, then once you think the negotiation is over, you're tossed into the next stage of the negotiation gauntlet. I'd rather know up front that I'm going to pay $50,000 for a vehicle, rather than think I'm going to pay $40,000, then upon arriving at the dealership, find out the market price is $55,000, which goes down to $45,000 after negotiation, and after all that, have to deal with finance secretly adding $10k in options and fucking around with interest rates.