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I sympothize with the poster but the headline is potentially misleading. I don't think the article really qualifies her status as a healthy lifestyle individua

I sympothize with the poster but the headline is potentially misleading. I don't think the article really qualifies her status as a healthy lifestyle individual. I'm sure she may think she leads a very healthy lifestyle but there are a lot of misconceptions out there, when it comes to health. What exacerbates it is, once people learn that some things are not healthy, they switch to alternatives without understanding that the alternatives their going to are just as bad. I know I'm going to get downvoted severly for what I'm going to post, but the truth must come out. These are all things which people generally believe are healthy but there is ample evidence out there and talk to nutritionistal scientists and they'll tell you, the following are not necessarily healthy: - eating dairy and meat (both of these can be quite carcinogenic, lots of research proves this) - even fat free dairy, even fat free meat -> check out the china study, it's quite comprehensive and enlightening, study the blue zones - excercising, running more than 20 miles per week is actually detrimental to your health (surprising i know) - eating more than 2 meals a day - the list of foods that market themselves as healthy but are not, is extremely long: certain cereals, to granola bars, etc - non dairy creamers - sorry, but these things are loaded with partially hydrogenated oils, aka trans fats. trans fats are so bad, they've been made illegal but companies can get away with putting them in products by printing 0g of trans fat on the label becuase they're allowed to round down from 0.5g to 0. You might not think that's a big deal but they make the serving size super small, so 0.5 easily becomes 1 to 2g. even 2g of trans fat is enough to make a health difference. - high protein diet can speed up MTOR production, IGF-1 levels and increase cancer risk. research has shown it's only the over 65 yr crowd that really need high protein diets for good health because their IGF-1 levels are already to low. - Oils are NOT good for you, EVEEEN if their canola oil, extra virgin olive oil. All those mediterarean diets that show better health outcomes, do so "inspite of olive oil", not because of it. Scientists have observed the impact of olive oil up close, and they will tell you, you're endothelial cells which line your arteries do NOT like Olive oil or any other kind of oil running through your system. - Not to mention, most people vastly underestimate their junk food intake because it's density is so much greater. I mean, if you eat 1/4 of your plate with cookies, your diet isn't 25% junk. it's actually more like 90% because cookies 12 times more calorie dense than vegetables and fruits. - A salad with ranch dressing on it, you'd think would be healthy but look: the 2 TBS of ranch are 240 cals and the salad is like 20 cals, so your meal is mostly just oil and sugar. And yes, it's the calorie which is the unit of account: nutrition researchers use it, and your stomach uses it to determine your fullness (satiety is yet another completely misunderstood concept ) - It is VERY EASY to underestimate the amount of saturated fat you're consuming. The WHO recommends no more than 5% of your diet from Saturated fats which is about 11g. it's not commonly known but super provable from the USDA's own database, that saturated fats are present even in healthy foods but it's the right amount. even, in your rolled oats, and your spinach and your veggies there's some saturated fat, but it's not much. but you're already getting 5g a day just from the super healthy foods, so it's very easy to go over that 11g limit.

frumper 5y ago
You list a lot of things that aren't healthy. Can you give an example of a typical 2 meal day that doesn't include oils, fat, meat, dairy, or whatever else isn't healthy? I'm genuinely curious.
- WhompingWindows 5y ago
  You'd have to stick with vegetables and fruits, but even then there's debate over what is truly healthy. Is corn healthy? Is wheat healthy? Are carrots healthy? They're all plants after all, however... All three are high in carbohydrates and would be considered "unhealthy" from a keto-perspective. The best bet here: don't listen to one source of information. There are literally thousands of experts on diet, health, and nutrition, no one of them is totally correct. Find what you can tolerate, what you can stick to; eat mostly plants, and not too much.
- simpthrown8id 5y ago
  One NY times article stated: "Just eat food". As a general rule of thumb, they stated, if your great grandmother doesn't recognize it as food, it probably isn't. The primary food groups are: - Beans - Whole Grains - Fruits - Vegetables the two secondary groups are: - Nuts - Seeds And, you can eat some oil and sugar, just make sure it's not a vast amount. Know that anything in a wrapper or box or plastic bag that was made in a factory is roughly 50% oil. With Sat Fat, gotta be much more careful because it takes very little to go over in that category. People always wonder what's so special about these foods (beans, whole grains, fruits, vegies), why are they healthy? why can't we just eat cheeseburgers everyday. It's just that, the whole foods plant based diet is what our ancestors ate for millions of years. it's what our body has adapted to for millions of years. When scientists followed the hazda tribe (an untouched people, who still mostly live the way our ancestors lived) through their native area, they found that they mainly just ate plants. they grazed all day long, going from bush to bush eating leafy green vegetables, the occassional fruits. Their 2 day meal plant consisted of grabbing whatever leafy greens they happened to find that day. Of course, they're expert foragers and know what to eat. It may not seem like a varied diet but, there are over 80,000 edible plant species in the world. You likely have over a dozen growing in your backyard if you know what they look like: Dandelions, Dock, american willoherb, holleycock, mallow, wood sorrel, miners lettuce, nasturiums, etc. Simply put, the diet that most closely mimics the foods that humans evolved to eat, are the ones that cause the least amount of health issues. If you don't like eating greens all day, here's another idea: 2 Meal day: Breakfast: Cacao powder with hot water and 1 TSP of soymilk or oatmilk* Lunch: Oatmeal, 2 mangos Dinner: Cabbage soup: carrots, tomatoes, cabbage with spices and beans, Steamed Broccoli. a piece of whole wheat bread, and for dessert: some high fiber cereal with a little bit of soymilk and honey on top. (Yum!) breakfast: cacao powder with hot water and soymilk. Lunch: Juiced greens from the garden (whatever's growing that's edible), an apple, pear, couple of almonds, Lentil soup Dinner: Garden salad with nuts, brown rice, tofu and tomato dish dessert: chia seed pudding with soymilk and cinnamon. *(Oatmilk - this is another one of those alternative health foods to watch out for: alot of these things are filled with oil and sugar. they say 2% oil but that's by weight, not calories, so vastly misleading). check the ingredient labels. Soemtimes, You can reverse engineer the real ingredient breakdown by calculating the % of fat or sat fat listed on the label vs the % of fat found in rolled oats. Most people don't have time to eat greens 10 hours a day like the hazda do, so we have to rely on Beans and Whole Grains, nuts and seeds and fruits for most of our calories.

frumper 5y ago

You list a lot of things that aren't healthy. Can you give an example of a typical 2 meal day that doesn't include oils, fat, meat, dairy, or whatever else isn't healthy? I'm genuinely curious.

WhompingWindows 5y ago
You'd have to stick with vegetables and fruits, but even then there's debate over what is truly healthy. Is corn healthy? Is wheat healthy? Are carrots healthy? They're all plants after all, however... All three are high in carbohydrates and would be considered "unhealthy" from a keto-perspective. The best bet here: don't listen to one source of information. There are literally thousands of experts on diet, health, and nutrition, no one of them is totally correct. Find what you can tolerate, what you can stick to; eat mostly plants, and not too much.
simpthrown8id 5y ago
One NY times article stated: "Just eat food". As a general rule of thumb, they stated, if your great grandmother doesn't recognize it as food, it probably isn't. The primary food groups are: - Beans - Whole Grains - Fruits - Vegetables the two secondary groups are: - Nuts - Seeds And, you can eat some oil and sugar, just make sure it's not a vast amount. Know that anything in a wrapper or box or plastic bag that was made in a factory is roughly 50% oil. With Sat Fat, gotta be much more careful because it takes very little to go over in that category. People always wonder what's so special about these foods (beans, whole grains, fruits, vegies), why are they healthy? why can't we just eat cheeseburgers everyday. It's just that, the whole foods plant based diet is what our ancestors ate for millions of years. it's what our body has adapted to for millions of years. When scientists followed the hazda tribe (an untouched people, who still mostly live the way our ancestors lived) through their native area, they found that they mainly just ate plants. they grazed all day long, going from bush to bush eating leafy green vegetables, the occassional fruits. Their 2 day meal plant consisted of grabbing whatever leafy greens they happened to find that day. Of course, they're expert foragers and know what to eat. It may not seem like a varied diet but, there are over 80,000 edible plant species in the world. You likely have over a dozen growing in your backyard if you know what they look like: Dandelions, Dock, american willoherb, holleycock, mallow, wood sorrel, miners lettuce, nasturiums, etc. Simply put, the diet that most closely mimics the foods that humans evolved to eat, are the ones that cause the least amount of health issues. If you don't like eating greens all day, here's another idea: 2 Meal day: Breakfast: Cacao powder with hot water and 1 TSP of soymilk or oatmilk* Lunch: Oatmeal, 2 mangos Dinner: Cabbage soup: carrots, tomatoes, cabbage with spices and beans, Steamed Broccoli. a piece of whole wheat bread, and for dessert: some high fiber cereal with a little bit of soymilk and honey on top. (Yum!) breakfast: cacao powder with hot water and soymilk. Lunch: Juiced greens from the garden (whatever's growing that's edible), an apple, pear, couple of almonds, Lentil soup Dinner: Garden salad with nuts, brown rice, tofu and tomato dish dessert: chia seed pudding with soymilk and cinnamon. *(Oatmilk - this is another one of those alternative health foods to watch out for: alot of these things are filled with oil and sugar. they say 2% oil but that's by weight, not calories, so vastly misleading). check the ingredient labels. Soemtimes, You can reverse engineer the real ingredient breakdown by calculating the % of fat or sat fat listed on the label vs the % of fat found in rolled oats. Most people don't have time to eat greens 10 hours a day like the hazda do, so we have to rely on Beans and Whole Grains, nuts and seeds and fruits for most of our calories.