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If only someone was there, able to take pictures and report on it! You know, like all the news organizations across the world. Or refugees were streaming out of

If only someone was there, able to take pictures and report on it! You know, like all the news organizations across the world. Or refugees were streaming out of the area with horror stories. And satellite pictures and spy planes showed Russian troop movements. And the tyrant of Russia even said he was sending troops into another sovereign country, while contextualizing it under an obviously false narrative (that would imply the democratically elected ethnically Jewish president of Ukraine was a neo-nazi), and threatening a nuclear response to any armed involvement by other countries. Oh if only. Get out of here with however many worthless rubles you're getting paid.

VictorPath 5y ago
- selectodude 5y ago
  That's all you've learned about, eh?
- tomc1985 5y ago
  All propaganda. It goes both ways!
calculatte 5y ago
Should we also tell them about all of the WMDs we found in Iraq that those same news organizations told us existed for sure? How many other false narratives do those "trusted" organizations need to tell before you stop trusting them?
- Macha 5y ago
  Maybe US media was different (I wasn't in the US in 2003, and too young to read foreign media at the time), but here in Europe the media was pretty clear that it was a case of "The UN inspectors didn't find any WMDs but the USA insist they're there". There was a significant protest movement here to ban the US air force from our airports because they were using them as stopping points on the way to Iraq. I don't think the rest of the West took the US invasion of Iraq as uncritically as you think they did
- lostcolony 5y ago
  >> that those same news organizations told us existed for sure No they didn't. They reported on what US leadership was claiming; they did not claim to have seen it, did not provide video footage, did not have people in Iraq going "Yep. Right there. That WMD. Right there. Oh, also, over there is the crater where they tested it", etc etc.
  - calculatte 5y ago
    That is precisely what is happening now. They are reporting what US leadership, intel agencies, and outright silly propaganda tells them. They don't have boots on the ground. It's "Yep, there's the Ghost of Kyiv right there in this video game footage. Yep, that's a granny torching 100 Russky tanks".
99_00 5y ago
>Get out of here with however many worthless rubles you're getting paid. You're triggered because I have a different opinion. It's coming from fear and pain. I feel nothing but compassion for you right now.
- lostcolony 5y ago
  I don't think you understand what 'triggered' means; you certainly don't know where my post is coming from. Feel whatever you like; the point is your attempts at projecting yourself as some critical thinker only paint you as someone with their fingers in their ears, eyes closed, choosing to believe what you want to believe rather than what the entirety of evidence indicates.

VictorPath 5y ago

selectodude 5y ago
That's all you've learned about, eh?
tomc1985 5y ago
All propaganda. It goes both ways!

calculatte 5y ago

Should we also tell them about all of the WMDs we found in Iraq that those same news organizations told us existed for sure? How many other false narratives do those "trusted" organizations need to tell before you stop trusting them?

Macha 5y ago
Maybe US media was different (I wasn't in the US in 2003, and too young to read foreign media at the time), but here in Europe the media was pretty clear that it was a case of "The UN inspectors didn't find any WMDs but the USA insist they're there". There was a significant protest movement here to ban the US air force from our airports because they were using them as stopping points on the way to Iraq. I don't think the rest of the West took the US invasion of Iraq as uncritically as you think they did
lostcolony 5y ago
>> that those same news organizations told us existed for sure No they didn't. They reported on what US leadership was claiming; they did not claim to have seen it, did not provide video footage, did not have people in Iraq going "Yep. Right there. That WMD. Right there. Oh, also, over there is the crater where they tested it", etc etc.
- calculatte 5y ago
  That is precisely what is happening now. They are reporting what US leadership, intel agencies, and outright silly propaganda tells them. They don't have boots on the ground. It's "Yep, there's the Ghost of Kyiv right there in this video game footage. Yep, that's a granny torching 100 Russky tanks".

99_00 5y ago

>Get out of here with however many worthless rubles you're getting paid. You're triggered because I have a different opinion. It's coming from fear and pain. I feel nothing but compassion for you right now.

lostcolony 5y ago
I don't think you understand what 'triggered' means; you certainly don't know where my post is coming from. Feel whatever you like; the point is your attempts at projecting yourself as some critical thinker only paint you as someone with their fingers in their ears, eyes closed, choosing to believe what you want to believe rather than what the entirety of evidence indicates.