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Google salaries in Poland are below market rate, actually. They probably think that people will come to work for them for free just because they want to have "G

by 988747 5y ago

Google salaries in Poland are below market rate, actually. They probably think that people will come to work for them for free just because they want to have "Google" on their resume. Source: I was approached by a Google recruiter once, but did not even schedule an interview because of the lowball offer presented (total comp, including stock options, was way below what I make currently). $7k is not a market rate in Poland, unless you're talking $7k after all taxes.

alanek2007xD 5y ago
You must be talking about some senior positions right? No one at my large corpo earns more than 15k PLN.
- 988747 5y ago
  Yes, I was contacted regarding some Cloud Architect position, shortly after GCP opened their region in Warsaw.
- tomwojcik 5y ago
  Then you are being underpaid big time. These days 15k pln is a nice salary for a solid mid level backend engineer.
  - alanek2007xD 5y ago
    https://bulldogjob.pl/readme/frontend-developer-praca-i-zarobki-w-polsce https://bulldogjob.pl/readme/frontend-developer-praca-i-zaro... According to this article majority of people don't earn 15k PLN as a mid. I hope you are not confused with the range on job offers on the bulletins.
    - pbalcer 5y ago
      Average salaries from these types of aggregate reports are misleading since they are mostly representative only of the low-end local range. The median salary for senior engineers (5-10 years of experience) in Warsaw, according to levels.fyi, is 91k USD. I find that to match my experience in a different large city in Poland.
- machiaweliczny 5y ago
  I am talking gross/contract to be clear and yes, senior.
jsnell 5y ago
I find it hard to believe that 7k USD / month would be a below market salary in Poland.
- pbalcer 5y ago
  Depends on location and experience. 7k USD/mo gross is below market for senior/staff positions in larger cities.
  - izacus 5y ago
    And senior/staff people at Google don't get 7k either. This is yet again a case of myopic lense where someone can't see beyond their own special little island and does invalid comparisons.
    - pbalcer 5y ago
      Certainly, that's why I responded. Tech salaries are becoming bimodal (or even "trimodal" [1]), and different types of companies are targeting different segments of the talent market. This skews the perception people have on what is actually a market rate, so it's important to spread awareness... [1] - https://blog.pragmaticengineer.com/software-engineering-salaries-in-the-netherlands-and-europe/ https://blog.pragmaticengineer.com/software-engineering-sala...
      - syngrog66 5y ago
        yep. I try to gauge early whether an potential employer wants the best programmer, or cheapest. because they pay wildly different. one gives me a better personal ROI than other. The new trend of shops being coy about telling you a job's pay makes it harder. no point wasting everybody's time
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by 988747 5y ago

alanek2007xD 5y ago

You must be talking about some senior positions right? No one at my large corpo earns more than 15k PLN.

988747 5y ago
Yes, I was contacted regarding some Cloud Architect position, shortly after GCP opened their region in Warsaw.
tomwojcik 5y ago
Then you are being underpaid big time. These days 15k pln is a nice salary for a solid mid level backend engineer.
- alanek2007xD 5y ago
  https://bulldogjob.pl/readme/frontend-developer-praca-i-zarobki-w-polsce https://bulldogjob.pl/readme/frontend-developer-praca-i-zaro... According to this article majority of people don't earn 15k PLN as a mid. I hope you are not confused with the range on job offers on the bulletins.
  - pbalcer 5y ago
    Average salaries from these types of aggregate reports are misleading since they are mostly representative only of the low-end local range. The median salary for senior engineers (5-10 years of experience) in Warsaw, according to levels.fyi, is 91k USD. I find that to match my experience in a different large city in Poland.
machiaweliczny 5y ago
I am talking gross/contract to be clear and yes, senior.

jsnell 5y ago

I find it hard to believe that 7k USD / month would be a below market salary in Poland.

pbalcer 5y ago
Depends on location and experience. 7k USD/mo gross is below market for senior/staff positions in larger cities.
- izacus 5y ago
  And senior/staff people at Google don't get 7k either. This is yet again a case of myopic lense where someone can't see beyond their own special little island and does invalid comparisons.
  - pbalcer 5y ago
    Certainly, that's why I responded. Tech salaries are becoming bimodal (or even "trimodal" [1]), and different types of companies are targeting different segments of the talent market. This skews the perception people have on what is actually a market rate, so it's important to spread awareness... [1] - https://blog.pragmaticengineer.com/software-engineering-salaries-in-the-netherlands-and-europe/ https://blog.pragmaticengineer.com/software-engineering-sala...
    - syngrog66 5y ago
      yep. I try to gauge early whether an potential employer wants the best programmer, or cheapest. because they pay wildly different. one gives me a better personal ROI than other. The new trend of shops being coy about telling you a job's pay makes it harder. no point wasting everybody's time
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