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Drama is bound to happen for a project that lots of people deeply care about. But this drama has never affected those of us who use Rails full-time and professi

by Axsuul 5y ago

Drama is bound to happen for a project that lots of people deeply care about. But this drama has never affected those of us who use Rails full-time and professionally, especially me. To be frank, you mentioned in a later reply: "I haven’t done web dev for a very long time" so your comment does sound like an overreaction.

nasmorn 5y ago
I have used rails since 1.0 days and the drama has never affected my ability to ship. It is not as if DHH is posting dick pics to the edge rails guides. Don’t follow him on twitter and don’t read his blog and you would be none the wiser about his views. Edit: I realized me posting this under your comment seems a bit belligerent. Not meant as such I just identified with your position of using it for work
- ksec 5y ago
  >Don’t follow him on twitter and don’t read his blog and you would be none the wiser about his views. I think that become easier as you age, but in the context of grand parents, new dev are bound to use social media and forums for help and info. And these drama will likely have an negative effect on them.
- danpalmer 5y ago
  It might not affect the day to day, but with this many senior community members speaking up over the years, and leaving Ruby/Rails, I have to imagine it has stunted the growth and progression of the ecosystem. When I look s as t the transformation that has happened to Python/Django over the last 10 years, compared to Rails, it does feel like it might be the case, although that’s my biased personal point of view.
  - heartbreak 5y ago
    Does Python/Django have working dependency management yet? It doesn’t as of 3 months ago.
    - danpalmer 5y ago
      There's a lot of different options at different levels of maturity, but fundamentally yes there are options that work well. I also wouldn't necessarily call Bundler a gold-standard dependency management solution, it's good but lacks more advanced features necessary for reproducible builds.

by Axsuul 5y ago

nasmorn 5y ago

I have used rails since 1.0 days and the drama has never affected my ability to ship. It is not as if DHH is posting dick pics to the edge rails guides. Don’t follow him on twitter and don’t read his blog and you would be none the wiser about his views. Edit: I realized me posting this under your comment seems a bit belligerent. Not meant as such I just identified with your position of using it for work

ksec 5y ago
>Don’t follow him on twitter and don’t read his blog and you would be none the wiser about his views. I think that become easier as you age, but in the context of grand parents, new dev are bound to use social media and forums for help and info. And these drama will likely have an negative effect on them.
danpalmer 5y ago
It might not affect the day to day, but with this many senior community members speaking up over the years, and leaving Ruby/Rails, I have to imagine it has stunted the growth and progression of the ecosystem. When I look s as t the transformation that has happened to Python/Django over the last 10 years, compared to Rails, it does feel like it might be the case, although that’s my biased personal point of view.
- heartbreak 5y ago
  Does Python/Django have working dependency management yet? It doesn’t as of 3 months ago.
  - danpalmer 5y ago
    There's a lot of different options at different levels of maturity, but fundamentally yes there are options that work well. I also wouldn't necessarily call Bundler a gold-standard dependency management solution, it's good but lacks more advanced features necessary for reproducible builds.