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Some things you do are for survival, of course you wouldn't do those in your final hour because survival isn't a concern anymore. If on your last day, you want

Some things you do are for survival, of course you wouldn't do those in your final hour because survival isn't a concern anymore. If on your last day, you want to spend it with loved ones, and say, in nature or with music, then that's how you should be trying spend your life in general. It's a heuristic, no a literal instruction book.

latexr 5y ago
> Some things you do are for survival, of course you wouldn't do those in your final hour because survival isn't a concern anymore. And some things you do are not for survival, yet they continue to be the right choice if you’re not living your final day. Like mending your favourite t-shirt. Cooking a meal was an example which just happens to overlap with survival. The point stands. > If on your last day, you want to spend it with loved ones, and say, in nature or with music, then that's how you should be trying spend your life in general. > It's a heuristic, no a literal instruction book. What’s the point in saying it, then? If it amounts to “in general, you should try to spend your life the way you want”, don’t (effectively?) all living creatures do that by default without being told? If it’s literal, it’s impossible to follow. If it’s figurative, it’s meaningless. I used “platitude” deliberatedly: > a remark or statement, especially one with a moral content, that has been used too often to be interesting or thoughtful
- betenoire 5y ago
  Survival was also just an example of a type of need. I'll be honest, I don't know how to answer this without rambling about virtue vs consequential ethics. It's not about what you are doing, it's about why you are doing it. It seems like you feel like you life a life where you are happy with the choices you make. Not everyone gets this. I try to live my life so that when my last day comes, I won't want to suddenly have been doing everything different, and try to correct at the end. That's what it means. Some people have a harder time finding that path, and need to remember to check in with themselves more often.
  - latexr 5y ago
    > I'll be honest, I don't know how to answer this without rambling about virtue vs consequential ethics. That’s OK. This is just a discussion on the web we’re both likely to eventually forget. Were we speaking in person, I’d find it valuable to discuss it further, ramblings and all. Worth noting that of the two points I expressed in my original comment, I find the other one to be the more interesting of the two. > It seems like you feel like you life a life where you are happy with the choices you make. Not everyone gets this. I feel confident in saying the answer to the first sentence has no bearing on my opinion on the matter. By that same token, I also agree with the second sentence. > Some people have a harder time finding that path, and need to remember to check in with themselves more often. Fair enough. Someone said “it’s never your successful friends posting the inspirational quotes”, though (assuming it’s true) that could just very well be because those are precisely the friends who don’t need external reinforcement. I feel that given more time and a better setting to discuss, one or both of us might begin to tweak our view. I would have enjoyed that. Thank you for a constructive (though brief) conversation.

latexr 5y ago

> Some things you do are for survival, of course you wouldn't do those in your final hour because survival isn't a concern anymore. And some things you do are not for survival, yet they continue to be the right choice if you’re not living your final day. Like mending your favourite t-shirt. Cooking a meal was an example which just happens to overlap with survival. The point stands. > If on your last day, you want to spend it with loved ones, and say, in nature or with music, then that's how you should be trying spend your life in general. > It's a heuristic, no a literal instruction book. What’s the point in saying it, then? If it amounts to “in general, you should try to spend your life the way you want”, don’t (effectively?) all living creatures do that by default without being told? If it’s literal, it’s impossible to follow. If it’s figurative, it’s meaningless. I used “platitude” deliberatedly: > a remark or statement, especially one with a moral content, that has been used too often to be interesting or thoughtful

betenoire 5y ago
Survival was also just an example of a type of need. I'll be honest, I don't know how to answer this without rambling about virtue vs consequential ethics. It's not about what you are doing, it's about why you are doing it. It seems like you feel like you life a life where you are happy with the choices you make. Not everyone gets this. I try to live my life so that when my last day comes, I won't want to suddenly have been doing everything different, and try to correct at the end. That's what it means. Some people have a harder time finding that path, and need to remember to check in with themselves more often.
- latexr 5y ago
  > I'll be honest, I don't know how to answer this without rambling about virtue vs consequential ethics. That’s OK. This is just a discussion on the web we’re both likely to eventually forget. Were we speaking in person, I’d find it valuable to discuss it further, ramblings and all. Worth noting that of the two points I expressed in my original comment, I find the other one to be the more interesting of the two. > It seems like you feel like you life a life where you are happy with the choices you make. Not everyone gets this. I feel confident in saying the answer to the first sentence has no bearing on my opinion on the matter. By that same token, I also agree with the second sentence. > Some people have a harder time finding that path, and need to remember to check in with themselves more often. Fair enough. Someone said “it’s never your successful friends posting the inspirational quotes”, though (assuming it’s true) that could just very well be because those are precisely the friends who don’t need external reinforcement. I feel that given more time and a better setting to discuss, one or both of us might begin to tweak our view. I would have enjoyed that. Thank you for a constructive (though brief) conversation.