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The Waning of Ruby and Rails

9 points by berkes 5y ago

JohnBooty 5y ago
I'm not sure if declining Google search activity for Rails is the best metric. Common consensus seems to be that Google results for coding-related concerns have gotten worse and worse in recent years, and I agree with that consensus. Are people avoiding Google, or avoiding Rails? Probably a little of both, I'd guess. I think a mature framework like Rails will also tend to have a greater disconnect between "people searching for help" and "people actually using it."
- berkes 5y ago
  > I'm not sure if declining Google search activity for Rails is the best metric. Me neither. That is why I wrote the post and included many more sources, stackoverflow insights, Tiobe, rubygems.org, github etc. I'm sorry If I did not put this forward more clearly. The initial graph was mostly a hook, and not so much proof, as I mentioned in the first paragraph.
  - JohnBooty 5y ago
    Thanks, I apologize, I clearly didn't read the article all the way through. Thank you for doing this work!
ksec 5y ago
Few small errors: > Stripe (2011) Stipe doesn't use Rails at all. They use Ruby only. >Discord and Mastodon I assume you mean Discourse, the forum. Discord, the Chat App, uses Elixir + Rust >Running Rails and started after 2010 Gusto (2012), Instacart (2012), Coinbase (2012), FlexPort (2014), Although I agree with the overall thesis of the post. The sad state of things.
- berkes 5y ago
  Thanks for the feedback! I clarified the point on Stripe a little. FWIW: Stripe is a.o. the company behind Sorbet[1], the Ruby type checker. A great contribution to the Ruby ecosystem. From your examples, I only know Coinbase, and presumed they are primarily a Golang and React company, seen from their job vacancies [2]. Instacart, FlexPort and Gusto I had to look up. They are, indeed large, but not on my radar, because they are primarily US focused and -based. Thanks for correcting me! [1] https://github.com/sorbet/sorbet https://github.com/sorbet/sorbet [2] https://www.coinbase.com/careers/ https://www.coinbase.com/careers/

9 points by berkes 5y ago

I'm not sure if declining Google search activity for Rails is the best metric. Common consensus seems to be that Google results for coding-related concerns have gotten worse and worse in recent years, and I agree with that consensus. Are people avoiding Google, or avoiding Rails? Probably a little of both, I'd guess. I think a mature framework like Rails will also tend to have a greater disconnect between "people searching for help" and "people actually using it."

berkes 5y ago
> I'm not sure if declining Google search activity for Rails is the best metric. Me neither. That is why I wrote the post and included many more sources, stackoverflow insights, Tiobe, rubygems.org, github etc. I'm sorry If I did not put this forward more clearly. The initial graph was mostly a hook, and not so much proof, as I mentioned in the first paragraph.
- JohnBooty 5y ago
  Thanks, I apologize, I clearly didn't read the article all the way through. Thank you for doing this work!

ksec 5y ago

Few small errors: > Stripe (2011) Stipe doesn't use Rails at all. They use Ruby only. >Discord and Mastodon I assume you mean Discourse, the forum. Discord, the Chat App, uses Elixir + Rust >Running Rails and started after 2010 Gusto (2012), Instacart (2012), Coinbase (2012), FlexPort (2014), Although I agree with the overall thesis of the post. The sad state of things.

berkes 5y ago
Thanks for the feedback! I clarified the point on Stripe a little. FWIW: Stripe is a.o. the company behind Sorbet[1], the Ruby type checker. A great contribution to the Ruby ecosystem. From your examples, I only know Coinbase, and presumed they are primarily a Golang and React company, seen from their job vacancies [2]. Instacart, FlexPort and Gusto I had to look up. They are, indeed large, but not on my radar, because they are primarily US focused and -based. Thanks for correcting me! [1] https://github.com/sorbet/sorbet https://github.com/sorbet/sorbet [2] https://www.coinbase.com/careers/ https://www.coinbase.com/careers/