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I was waiting for that as don't want to move my ass. I guess they want to poach some of Ukraine contractors (AFAIK lots of people work for around $50K with 5%

I was waiting for that as don't want to move my ass. I guess they want to poach some of Ukraine contractors (AFAIK lots of people work for around $50K with 5% tax there and they are quite good). Rates in Google Poland seem to be $7K/month which is upper market but you get 32% (+ recent 7%) tax >= $40K (progressive)). But it's much better if one needs mortgage. It also helps that Warsaw Uni is quite good [0](13th this time but they are often 1st). I was scared to go there and be forced to study too much xD but seems like Wrocław Uni is also strong (5th). TBH if I knew better back then I would probably go to MIT instead (or maybe not). [0] - https://icpc.global/worldfinals/results https://icpc.global/worldfinals/results

paganel 5y ago
There’s also lots of talent in neighboring Belarus, where Google indirectly has a presence through their acquisition of Fitbit (or had, not sure if their office is open anymore after the recent events in there). Sort of glad though that they didn’t decide to expand their small office they have here in Bucharest (also through the Fitbit acquisition), the local real estate market was getting quite heated regardless so extra gentrification brought by behemoths like Google extending their presence wouldn’t have helped.
- sam_lowry_ 5y ago
  AFAIK Google also has EPAM employees from Belarus as external contractors.
  - durnygbur 5y ago
    epam, akveo, luxoft... cheap workforce under authoritarian rule is too sweet to resist. Now kryndrylyl is trending, or whatever is its name.
  - salmonlogs 5y ago
    Yep, lots of EPAM contractors working for Google
988747 5y ago
Google salaries in Poland are below market rate, actually. They probably think that people will come to work for them for free just because they want to have "Google" on their resume. Source: I was approached by a Google recruiter once, but did not even schedule an interview because of the lowball offer presented (total comp, including stock options, was way below what I make currently). $7k is not a market rate in Poland, unless you're talking $7k after all taxes.
- alanek2007xD 5y ago
  You must be talking about some senior positions right? No one at my large corpo earns more than 15k PLN.
  - 988747 5y ago
    Yes, I was contacted regarding some Cloud Architect position, shortly after GCP opened their region in Warsaw.
  - tomwojcik 5y ago
    Then you are being underpaid big time. These days 15k pln is a nice salary for a solid mid level backend engineer.
    - alanek2007xD 5y ago
      https://bulldogjob.pl/readme/frontend-developer-praca-i-zarobki-w-polsce https://bulldogjob.pl/readme/frontend-developer-praca-i-zaro... According to this article majority of people don't earn 15k PLN as a mid. I hope you are not confused with the range on job offers on the bulletins.
      - pbalcer 5y ago
        Average salaries from these types of aggregate reports are misleading since they are mostly representative only of the low-end local range. The median salary for senior engineers (5-10 years of experience) in Warsaw, according to levels.fyi, is 91k USD. I find that to match my experience in a different large city in Poland.

paganel 5y ago

There’s also lots of talent in neighboring Belarus, where Google indirectly has a presence through their acquisition of Fitbit (or had, not sure if their office is open anymore after the recent events in there). Sort of glad though that they didn’t decide to expand their small office they have here in Bucharest (also through the Fitbit acquisition), the local real estate market was getting quite heated regardless so extra gentrification brought by behemoths like Google extending their presence wouldn’t have helped.

sam_lowry_ 5y ago
AFAIK Google also has EPAM employees from Belarus as external contractors.
- durnygbur 5y ago
  epam, akveo, luxoft... cheap workforce under authoritarian rule is too sweet to resist. Now kryndrylyl is trending, or whatever is its name.
- salmonlogs 5y ago
  Yep, lots of EPAM contractors working for Google

988747 5y ago

Google salaries in Poland are below market rate, actually. They probably think that people will come to work for them for free just because they want to have "Google" on their resume. Source: I was approached by a Google recruiter once, but did not even schedule an interview because of the lowball offer presented (total comp, including stock options, was way below what I make currently). $7k is not a market rate in Poland, unless you're talking $7k after all taxes.

alanek2007xD 5y ago
You must be talking about some senior positions right? No one at my large corpo earns more than 15k PLN.
- 988747 5y ago
  Yes, I was contacted regarding some Cloud Architect position, shortly after GCP opened their region in Warsaw.
- tomwojcik 5y ago
  Then you are being underpaid big time. These days 15k pln is a nice salary for a solid mid level backend engineer.
  - alanek2007xD 5y ago
    https://bulldogjob.pl/readme/frontend-developer-praca-i-zarobki-w-polsce https://bulldogjob.pl/readme/frontend-developer-praca-i-zaro... According to this article majority of people don't earn 15k PLN as a mid. I hope you are not confused with the range on job offers on the bulletins.
    - pbalcer 5y ago
      Average salaries from these types of aggregate reports are misleading since they are mostly representative only of the low-end local range. The median salary for senior engineers (5-10 years of experience) in Warsaw, according to levels.fyi, is 91k USD. I find that to match my experience in a different large city in Poland.