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Lyrics in ogg/vorbis and MP3 files

93 points by severine 5y ago

Saint_Genet 5y ago
I wrote an mp3/ogg/flac/acc metadata parser over 10 years ago, and it was an absolute shower of shit with regards to character sets and compatibility between players and encoders. Has anything changed?
- toyg 5y ago
  As others said, the only thing that changed is that most people stopped caring and moved on to streaming.
- cpach 5y ago
  One thing that changed is that many users abandoned local audio files in favour of Spotify etc…
- declnz 5y ago
  In short I'd say no
- Hello71 5y ago
  It's worse now, because there's more formats. Unfortunately, MP3 and AAC are still popular enough that software needs to support it, so you now need to support mp3/ogg/flac/aac plus opus, which is usually ogg container, but has its own additional metadata, and also sometimes it's in matroska container instead.
causi 5y ago
I've yet to find a music/lyrics app that isn't half-broken or riddled with spyware and advertising. Edit: I thought saying "app" made it clear I needed it for a mobile device, Android, sorry. Foobar2000 is my choice of music player, it just doesn't do lyrics on mobile. I do think it's a testament to how underserved this niche is that all the replies are either desktop programs or mobile apps that don't support displaying lyrics while playing a song.
- hashhar 5y ago
  If you have files which have lyrics already embedded I believe BlackPlayer does a pretty good job (and it's a very awesome and well customisable music player in and of itself).
- ZYinMD 5y ago
  I use Foobar2000 with OpenLyrics and it's been great.
- severak_cz 5y ago
  foobar2000 works great for my local mp3 collection on two different windows machines. It's even possible to use it as a source for internet radio stream using some other software (butt & voicemeter) and lot of black magic.
- iggldiggl 5y ago
  I cannot absolutely vouch for it on the spyware front (though I didn't encounter anything suspicious so far), but https://www.mediahuman.com/lyrics-finder/ https://www.mediahuman.com/lyrics-finder/ does work (i.e. isn't half-broken) and doesn't contain advertising, either.
- mynameismon 5y ago
  If someone is looking for Android, check out Musicolet. Absolutely free, doesn't even request the WiFi permissions so one can be assured it does not track. Also is lightweight, and (relatively) customisable.
  - acidburnNSA 5y ago
    Been using Musicolet. I agree that it's great. https://krosbits.in/musicolet/ https://krosbits.in/musicolet/
- thesuitonym 5y ago
  I haven't heard of any spyware or advertising Winamp. It doesn't have very good lyrics support (maybe not any?) out of the box, but there are tons of plugins.
extheat 5y ago
Seems like a simple problem to solve as long as there’s support for arbitrary metadata in the file format. Just store the LRC data in as plaintext in one of those fields and call it a day. Of course without a proper written standard it’s going to be a hodgepodge of everyone inventing their own standard way of doing something catered to their use case. It’s an inevitable part of the software world. If you absolutely need to pack the data into the audio file you can probably make a simple extractor program to read the audio file and extract the lyric data into a format that the player can read natively then feed it in to the player. Or patch the player software to support your format. The former is usually the easier option, of course.
- mileza 5y ago
  I think you're missing the forest for the trees. It's one thing to store the lyrics in the file, but the entire UX around the use of those lyrics is pratically non-existent. Storing the text is the easy part. Procuring files with lyrics baked in or adding lyrics to your pre-existing library is another. And so far, almost no music player supports them, their UI isn't necessarily optimized for displaying lyrics, and there is no widespread standard for their format.
woodruffw 5y ago
It's really unfortunate that there isn't a single, high-quality reference source (with an API) for song lyrics, the way there is for artist/album metadata (MusicBrainz) or cover art (Cover Art Archive). No source that I'm aware of provides a public API, leaving tools like beets to haphazardly scrape a handful of websites[1]. [1]: https://beets.readthedocs.io/en/v1.6.0/plugins/lyrics.html https://beets.readthedocs.io/en/v1.6.0/plugins/lyrics.html
- declnz 5y ago
  It's really unfortunate that there isn't a single, high-quality reference source (with an API) for song lyrics, the way there is for artist/album metadata (MusicBrainz) or cover art (Cover Art Archive). My gut tells me this is because labels (or even streaming giants) realised it's monetisable and thus will pursue any API that gets big enough :(
- CharlesW 5y ago
  > It's really unfortunate that there isn't a single, high-quality reference source (with an API) for song lyrics… Does Genius not serve this purpose? https://docs.genius.com/#songs-h2 https://docs.genius.com/#songs-h2
  - woodruffw 5y ago
    My understanding, which might be dated, is that the Genius API intentionally does not serve lyrics in a machine-readable format to avoid IP problems. That's why LyricsGenius uses an HTML scraper to extract the lyrics[1], and why other tools (like beets) have data quality issues. [1]: https://lyricsgenius.readthedocs.io/en/master/how_it_works.html https://lyricsgenius.readthedocs.io/en/master/how_it_works.h...
- krrrh 5y ago
  This is as close as it comes, they've been around for years, and used to be the source for the hundreds of lyrics sites that used to exist. https://www.musixmatch.com https://www.musixmatch.com I can't remember if it was them or another service (edit: I'm pretty sure it was actually https://www.lyricfind.com https://www.lyricfind.com ) that used to have a free licensing tier if your lyrics site included their ads, which were for a scam ring tone subscription service that would trick users into a ringtone "subscription" billed to their mobile carrier. The ads promised MIDI ringtones on every lyric page, but usually they didn't have them for more obscure songs. https://euobserver.com/news/29005 https://euobserver.com/news/29005
egypturnash 5y ago
I wish more people would use these, whenever I buy music off of iTunes or Bandcamp it almost never comes with the lyrics embedded. I know Bandcamp supports it because I recall being delightfully surprised by some music an acquaintance sold there having lyrics; not sure I can recall ever getting them off of iTunes. Every now and then iTunes sells me an album that comes with a PDF of the CD booklet, that’s about the closest it comes.
- pathartl 5y ago
  Unfortunately, locally stored music is a dead media.
  - Teever 5y ago
    It really isn't. There are very active communities of people who collect and distribute media. check out https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/
    - pathartl 5y ago
      I myself have a 135TB home server. I am well aware and invested in local data hoarding. It still doesn't remove the fact that it's getting harder to find certain media. Additionally, most people can't spin up a server... hell most people I know could barely sync their iPod to iTunes. Owning your own media is more expensive in both money and time. That's not a compromise that most people want to deal with.
  - egypturnash 5y ago
    shrug It still works for me. And presumably Epic thinks it’s worth something or they wouldn’t have bought Bandcamp just now.
    - indigochill 5y ago
      I'm not fully convinced that Epic believes in locally stored music. Yes, Bandcamp is one of the last bastions of that, but Bandcamp is so laissez-faire I just can't see a megacorp like Epic tolerating DRM-free music sales (or even free hosting of free music, as I've used Bandcamp for) forever. Historically big business is antagonistic towards the DRM-free movement. TBF, Epic hasn't really done anything to antagonize the DRM-free movement (and open-sourcing UE4 was a huge PR win for them), but neither have I seen them really go out of their way to support it the way, say, CD Projekt did with GOG, a store that at least at one time (and maybe still) exclusively sold DRM-free games. I'm more inclined to read the Bandcamp acquisition as Epic's hipper eventual answer to iTunes, given their spat with Apple doesn't seem fully over. But I guess we'll see. I will admit I'm taking the news of the acquisition with more cynicism than is strictly warranted based on the observable facts.
m-p-3 5y ago
Sadly the ability to show lyrics on musical files isn't as "standardized" as on video files. The MKV container is great for that, with the ability to add subtitle files as additional data streams, and most players are able to handle it. I wish the FLAC format would actually decide on an actual tagging standard for synced and unsynced lyrics data. It's probably because the use of lyrics file is too much of a niche compared to video subs.
- bombcar 5y ago
  Does the MKV container work without a video track? Is there any player that can handle "using" MKV for audio files?
  - hatsuseno 5y ago
    I've had no issues using either mplayer on *nix, or foobar2k on windows for audio-only MKV.
  - alternatetwo 5y ago
    Typically you'd name the extension ".mka" then. Any reasonably modern player using ffmpeg libraries for decoding should be able to deal with them fine. Fun fact: There's also ".mks" for only including subs.
    - bombcar 5y ago
      https://www.matroska.org/technical/codec_specs.html https://www.matroska.org/technical/codec_specs.html - it seems that .mka would be perfect, it supports all codecs basically, and so you can losslessly move audio into the container and back out if needed. You still need players that would understand how to display subtitles for a .mka container.
  - Isthatablackgsd 5y ago
    Yea they can, MKV is just a container. If you open up MKV container via MKVToolNix, Handbrake or MediaInfo, you will see various formats in there. Though, not all audio/music players have a support for MKV and its variant.
jjice 5y ago
I was thinking about this a bit over a year ago while automating ID3 tagging on my library and started thinking about how there's no standardized lyrics in music. I was using ID3v1, which I think explains my issue, but I guess it still wouldn't have helped since I've never seen the option in a player or anything. It's a real shame the industry didn't treat lyrics in a song file as important as subtitles in a movie. Mini rant: back when I was in high school (I'm a college graduate now, for context on how long it's been), Spotify had a lyric feature that was good enough. It was out of sync a lot, but pretty alright. One day, the button to display lyrics started saying that they were working on the feature and it would be back soon. Then, in the near future, they just removed the button. They added it back for a good chunk of popular songs a few months ago probably. It works pretty alright, but it's a shame I have to use a proprietary service, and it wasn't a priority for the biggest music streaming service to have the lyrics to a song. In reality, not a big deal, just annoyed by it. It's a real shame that I haven't even seen lyrics in music I purchase on Bandcamp.
- bombcar 5y ago
  Subtitles are actually a legal requirement for TV: https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/closed-captioning-television https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/closed-captioning-telev... and I assume DVDs, etc descend from that. Such a legal requirement has never been implemented for audio files, but it would be nice to see something, though I'm not sure how easy it would be to argue it as a accessibility issue - it's easy to see how someone who is deaf/hard of hearing can watch a show with subtitles, but do they "listen" to music? Isn't music without sound just poetry?
  - spijdar 5y ago
    It's worth pointing out some songs intentionally don't have "authoritative lyrics", and some musicians leave the lyrics open to interpretation, or mix in phonetic gibberish intended to sound like words but with no clear meaning. It's probably linked to why both there are no accessibility requirements for lyrics and they're not widespread in audio formats, that (some) musicians would see it as removing a dimension from their art. (Although the same argument could be applied to movies, where a difficult to hear conversation could be "artistic expression", so I don't know where the line is drawn. FWIW, I'm the sort of person to watch movies with subtitles enabled even though my hearing is fine, and I prefer knowing the lyrics to music) Edit: unrelated to lyrics, but I wonder if people with hearing impairment or complete lack of hearing listen to music for the sensation. With the right environment, you could physically experience at least some types of music, as vibrations on the skin. With frequency shifting this could probably be optimized...
xattt 5y ago
Embedding lyrics in files is great, but still half-baked. You’re often opening up the lyrics to see what the words are in that particular moment in the song. Apple Music took this feature one step further and actually provides a way to sync lyrics to the music. The UI is very intuitive as well. Not sure if Spotify offers this too.
pestatije 5y ago
> "ogg/vorbis is a patent-free audio codec and thus my preferred choice over mp3." mp3 is patent-free as well, as far as i know.
- yyyk 5y ago
  According to archive.org, this page was written in 2016 or earlier (their earliest entry is for dec. 2016). The mp3 patents expired in 2017, so at the time it was not patent-free.
  - pestatije 5y ago
    On the right-hand menu: > "July 26, 2016 updated April 8, 2021" Seems to be about this specific article.
    - yyyk 5y ago
      Oops, didn't notice that. I guess they did not update this part of the article?
- ksec 5y ago
  AAC-LC is also patent-free now. Same support as MP3 across devices while providing much better quality.
ncmncm 5y ago
Examples of support say mostly Ubuntu 2014. Surely something is different now? Wondering too abt. MPV.
sandreas 5y ago
If someone is looking for a possibility to do this with C#, I can recommend atl.net [1] library. Currently I am working on a tagging command line tool called `tone` that utilizes the library to do awesome stuff :-) The lib supports: - default tags (id3 v2.3, v2.4, APEtag 1.0-2.0, m4a, ogg) - chapters - lyrics - custom tags for the most modern audio formats. https://github.com/Zeugma440/atldotnet https://github.com/Zeugma440/atldotnet
shimonabi 5y ago
I recently wanted to add bookmarks/keywords to a recording of a lecture, but was amazed I couldn't find any software that does that. And yes, I've seen the VLC bookmark plugin. I ended with writing timestamps with comments using Notepad.

93 points by severine 5y ago

I wrote an mp3/ogg/flac/acc metadata parser over 10 years ago, and it was an absolute shower of shit with regards to character sets and compatibility between players and encoders. Has anything changed?

toyg 5y ago
As others said, the only thing that changed is that most people stopped caring and moved on to streaming.
cpach 5y ago
One thing that changed is that many users abandoned local audio files in favour of Spotify etc…
declnz 5y ago
In short I'd say no
Hello71 5y ago
It's worse now, because there's more formats. Unfortunately, MP3 and AAC are still popular enough that software needs to support it, so you now need to support mp3/ogg/flac/aac plus opus, which is usually ogg container, but has its own additional metadata, and also sometimes it's in matroska container instead.

causi 5y ago

I've yet to find a music/lyrics app that isn't half-broken or riddled with spyware and advertising. Edit: I thought saying "app" made it clear I needed it for a mobile device, Android, sorry. Foobar2000 is my choice of music player, it just doesn't do lyrics on mobile. I do think it's a testament to how underserved this niche is that all the replies are either desktop programs or mobile apps that don't support displaying lyrics while playing a song.

hashhar 5y ago
If you have files which have lyrics already embedded I believe BlackPlayer does a pretty good job (and it's a very awesome and well customisable music player in and of itself).
ZYinMD 5y ago
I use Foobar2000 with OpenLyrics and it's been great.
severak_cz 5y ago
foobar2000 works great for my local mp3 collection on two different windows machines. It's even possible to use it as a source for internet radio stream using some other software (butt & voicemeter) and lot of black magic.
iggldiggl 5y ago
I cannot absolutely vouch for it on the spyware front (though I didn't encounter anything suspicious so far), but https://www.mediahuman.com/lyrics-finder/ https://www.mediahuman.com/lyrics-finder/ does work (i.e. isn't half-broken) and doesn't contain advertising, either.
mynameismon 5y ago
If someone is looking for Android, check out Musicolet. Absolutely free, doesn't even request the WiFi permissions so one can be assured it does not track. Also is lightweight, and (relatively) customisable.
- acidburnNSA 5y ago
  Been using Musicolet. I agree that it's great. https://krosbits.in/musicolet/ https://krosbits.in/musicolet/
thesuitonym 5y ago
I haven't heard of any spyware or advertising Winamp. It doesn't have very good lyrics support (maybe not any?) out of the box, but there are tons of plugins.

extheat 5y ago

Seems like a simple problem to solve as long as there’s support for arbitrary metadata in the file format. Just store the LRC data in as plaintext in one of those fields and call it a day. Of course without a proper written standard it’s going to be a hodgepodge of everyone inventing their own standard way of doing something catered to their use case. It’s an inevitable part of the software world. If you absolutely need to pack the data into the audio file you can probably make a simple extractor program to read the audio file and extract the lyric data into a format that the player can read natively then feed it in to the player. Or patch the player software to support your format. The former is usually the easier option, of course.

mileza 5y ago
I think you're missing the forest for the trees. It's one thing to store the lyrics in the file, but the entire UX around the use of those lyrics is pratically non-existent. Storing the text is the easy part. Procuring files with lyrics baked in or adding lyrics to your pre-existing library is another. And so far, almost no music player supports them, their UI isn't necessarily optimized for displaying lyrics, and there is no widespread standard for their format.

woodruffw 5y ago

It's really unfortunate that there isn't a single, high-quality reference source (with an API) for song lyrics, the way there is for artist/album metadata (MusicBrainz) or cover art (Cover Art Archive). No source that I'm aware of provides a public API, leaving tools like beets to haphazardly scrape a handful of websites[1]. [1]: https://beets.readthedocs.io/en/v1.6.0/plugins/lyrics.html https://beets.readthedocs.io/en/v1.6.0/plugins/lyrics.html

declnz 5y ago
It's really unfortunate that there isn't a single, high-quality reference source (with an API) for song lyrics, the way there is for artist/album metadata (MusicBrainz) or cover art (Cover Art Archive). My gut tells me this is because labels (or even streaming giants) realised it's monetisable and thus will pursue any API that gets big enough :(
CharlesW 5y ago
> It's really unfortunate that there isn't a single, high-quality reference source (with an API) for song lyrics… Does Genius not serve this purpose? https://docs.genius.com/#songs-h2 https://docs.genius.com/#songs-h2
- woodruffw 5y ago
  My understanding, which might be dated, is that the Genius API intentionally does not serve lyrics in a machine-readable format to avoid IP problems. That's why LyricsGenius uses an HTML scraper to extract the lyrics[1], and why other tools (like beets) have data quality issues. [1]: https://lyricsgenius.readthedocs.io/en/master/how_it_works.html https://lyricsgenius.readthedocs.io/en/master/how_it_works.h...
krrrh 5y ago
This is as close as it comes, they've been around for years, and used to be the source for the hundreds of lyrics sites that used to exist. https://www.musixmatch.com https://www.musixmatch.com I can't remember if it was them or another service (edit: I'm pretty sure it was actually https://www.lyricfind.com https://www.lyricfind.com ) that used to have a free licensing tier if your lyrics site included their ads, which were for a scam ring tone subscription service that would trick users into a ringtone "subscription" billed to their mobile carrier. The ads promised MIDI ringtones on every lyric page, but usually they didn't have them for more obscure songs. https://euobserver.com/news/29005 https://euobserver.com/news/29005

egypturnash 5y ago

I wish more people would use these, whenever I buy music off of iTunes or Bandcamp it almost never comes with the lyrics embedded. I know Bandcamp supports it because I recall being delightfully surprised by some music an acquaintance sold there having lyrics; not sure I can recall ever getting them off of iTunes. Every now and then iTunes sells me an album that comes with a PDF of the CD booklet, that’s about the closest it comes.

pathartl 5y ago
Unfortunately, locally stored music is a dead media.
- Teever 5y ago
  It really isn't. There are very active communities of people who collect and distribute media. check out https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/
  - pathartl 5y ago
    I myself have a 135TB home server. I am well aware and invested in local data hoarding. It still doesn't remove the fact that it's getting harder to find certain media. Additionally, most people can't spin up a server... hell most people I know could barely sync their iPod to iTunes. Owning your own media is more expensive in both money and time. That's not a compromise that most people want to deal with.
- egypturnash 5y ago
  shrug It still works for me. And presumably Epic thinks it’s worth something or they wouldn’t have bought Bandcamp just now.
  - indigochill 5y ago
    I'm not fully convinced that Epic believes in locally stored music. Yes, Bandcamp is one of the last bastions of that, but Bandcamp is so laissez-faire I just can't see a megacorp like Epic tolerating DRM-free music sales (or even free hosting of free music, as I've used Bandcamp for) forever. Historically big business is antagonistic towards the DRM-free movement. TBF, Epic hasn't really done anything to antagonize the DRM-free movement (and open-sourcing UE4 was a huge PR win for them), but neither have I seen them really go out of their way to support it the way, say, CD Projekt did with GOG, a store that at least at one time (and maybe still) exclusively sold DRM-free games. I'm more inclined to read the Bandcamp acquisition as Epic's hipper eventual answer to iTunes, given their spat with Apple doesn't seem fully over. But I guess we'll see. I will admit I'm taking the news of the acquisition with more cynicism than is strictly warranted based on the observable facts.

m-p-3 5y ago

Sadly the ability to show lyrics on musical files isn't as "standardized" as on video files. The MKV container is great for that, with the ability to add subtitle files as additional data streams, and most players are able to handle it. I wish the FLAC format would actually decide on an actual tagging standard for synced and unsynced lyrics data. It's probably because the use of lyrics file is too much of a niche compared to video subs.

bombcar 5y ago
Does the MKV container work without a video track? Is there any player that can handle "using" MKV for audio files?
- hatsuseno 5y ago
  I've had no issues using either mplayer on *nix, or foobar2k on windows for audio-only MKV.
- alternatetwo 5y ago
  Typically you'd name the extension ".mka" then. Any reasonably modern player using ffmpeg libraries for decoding should be able to deal with them fine. Fun fact: There's also ".mks" for only including subs.
  - bombcar 5y ago
    https://www.matroska.org/technical/codec_specs.html https://www.matroska.org/technical/codec_specs.html - it seems that .mka would be perfect, it supports all codecs basically, and so you can losslessly move audio into the container and back out if needed. You still need players that would understand how to display subtitles for a .mka container.
- Isthatablackgsd 5y ago
  Yea they can, MKV is just a container. If you open up MKV container via MKVToolNix, Handbrake or MediaInfo, you will see various formats in there. Though, not all audio/music players have a support for MKV and its variant.

jjice 5y ago

I was thinking about this a bit over a year ago while automating ID3 tagging on my library and started thinking about how there's no standardized lyrics in music. I was using ID3v1, which I think explains my issue, but I guess it still wouldn't have helped since I've never seen the option in a player or anything. It's a real shame the industry didn't treat lyrics in a song file as important as subtitles in a movie. Mini rant: back when I was in high school (I'm a college graduate now, for context on how long it's been), Spotify had a lyric feature that was good enough. It was out of sync a lot, but pretty alright. One day, the button to display lyrics started saying that they were working on the feature and it would be back soon. Then, in the near future, they just removed the button. They added it back for a good chunk of popular songs a few months ago probably. It works pretty alright, but it's a shame I have to use a proprietary service, and it wasn't a priority for the biggest music streaming service to have the lyrics to a song. In reality, not a big deal, just annoyed by it. It's a real shame that I haven't even seen lyrics in music I purchase on Bandcamp.

bombcar 5y ago
Subtitles are actually a legal requirement for TV: https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/closed-captioning-television https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/closed-captioning-telev... and I assume DVDs, etc descend from that. Such a legal requirement has never been implemented for audio files, but it would be nice to see something, though I'm not sure how easy it would be to argue it as a accessibility issue - it's easy to see how someone who is deaf/hard of hearing can watch a show with subtitles, but do they "listen" to music? Isn't music without sound just poetry?
- spijdar 5y ago
  It's worth pointing out some songs intentionally don't have "authoritative lyrics", and some musicians leave the lyrics open to interpretation, or mix in phonetic gibberish intended to sound like words but with no clear meaning. It's probably linked to why both there are no accessibility requirements for lyrics and they're not widespread in audio formats, that (some) musicians would see it as removing a dimension from their art. (Although the same argument could be applied to movies, where a difficult to hear conversation could be "artistic expression", so I don't know where the line is drawn. FWIW, I'm the sort of person to watch movies with subtitles enabled even though my hearing is fine, and I prefer knowing the lyrics to music) Edit: unrelated to lyrics, but I wonder if people with hearing impairment or complete lack of hearing listen to music for the sensation. With the right environment, you could physically experience at least some types of music, as vibrations on the skin. With frequency shifting this could probably be optimized...

xattt 5y ago

Embedding lyrics in files is great, but still half-baked. You’re often opening up the lyrics to see what the words are in that particular moment in the song. Apple Music took this feature one step further and actually provides a way to sync lyrics to the music. The UI is very intuitive as well. Not sure if Spotify offers this too.

pestatije 5y ago

> "ogg/vorbis is a patent-free audio codec and thus my preferred choice over mp3." mp3 is patent-free as well, as far as i know.

yyyk 5y ago
According to archive.org, this page was written in 2016 or earlier (their earliest entry is for dec. 2016). The mp3 patents expired in 2017, so at the time it was not patent-free.
- pestatije 5y ago
  On the right-hand menu: > "July 26, 2016 updated April 8, 2021" Seems to be about this specific article.
  - yyyk 5y ago
    Oops, didn't notice that. I guess they did not update this part of the article?
ksec 5y ago
AAC-LC is also patent-free now. Same support as MP3 across devices while providing much better quality.

ncmncm 5y ago

Examples of support say mostly Ubuntu 2014. Surely something is different now? Wondering too abt. MPV.

sandreas 5y ago

If someone is looking for a possibility to do this with C#, I can recommend atl.net [1] library. Currently I am working on a tagging command line tool called `tone` that utilizes the library to do awesome stuff :-) The lib supports: - default tags (id3 v2.3, v2.4, APEtag 1.0-2.0, m4a, ogg) - chapters - lyrics - custom tags for the most modern audio formats. https://github.com/Zeugma440/atldotnet https://github.com/Zeugma440/atldotnet

shimonabi 5y ago

I recently wanted to add bookmarks/keywords to a recording of a lecture, but was amazed I couldn't find any software that does that. And yes, I've seen the VLC bookmark plugin. I ended with writing timestamps with comments using Notepad.