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I'm curious if this is actually working for them, ie are Opera users that sticky? Ad blockers are probably the most common type of browser extensions and broswe

I'm curious if this is actually working for them, ie are Opera users that sticky? Ad blockers are probably the most common type of browser extensions and broswers are pretty easy to switch - in-browser ads would be an immediate nope for many

emaro 5y ago
Since Opera became increasingly bad in the last 8 years or so (I didn't use it before), I assume that the people which are still using Opera actually are pretty sticky.
mrtranscendence 5y ago
I can't imagine how this could possibly work for them. Maybe there are sticky users who've been on Opera for decades, but it's gotta be niche as hell. I remember Opera being great 15-20 years ago -- it was my browser of choice. As far as I know nothing differentiates it these days from other Chromium browsers.
- iforgotpassword 5y ago
  In my circles, Opera was dead when Presto was killed. I don't know anyone who uses Opera today, except an apprentice we had for three months last year. In theory, it should just have been a change under the hood - use a different browser engine. But it seems that part is way more interlocked with the overall UX of the whole browser. 90% of features were missing after the switch, and while many were reimplemented later, whenever I checked it out again it was just different. I stuck with Opera 12 for so long it wasn't even funny anymore, more and more pages broke every day, but eventually, slowly I got used to Firefox. Which really took a loooooong time, since I tried a lot of extensions and tweaks to make it feel right. Weird how strongly you can get attached to a browser and its UX. I think even switching from Windows to Linux wasn't that tough.
  - nieve 5y ago
    I think a lot of the remaining Opera use is Opera Mini, possibly for its page size reducing proxy setup. On a site I do moderation for a noticeable amount of our most blatant trolling comes from that.
    - Rastonbury 5y ago
      Interesting

emaro 5y ago

Since Opera became increasingly bad in the last 8 years or so (I didn't use it before), I assume that the people which are still using Opera actually are pretty sticky.

mrtranscendence 5y ago

I can't imagine how this could possibly work for them. Maybe there are sticky users who've been on Opera for decades, but it's gotta be niche as hell. I remember Opera being great 15-20 years ago -- it was my browser of choice. As far as I know nothing differentiates it these days from other Chromium browsers.

iforgotpassword 5y ago
In my circles, Opera was dead when Presto was killed. I don't know anyone who uses Opera today, except an apprentice we had for three months last year. In theory, it should just have been a change under the hood - use a different browser engine. But it seems that part is way more interlocked with the overall UX of the whole browser. 90% of features were missing after the switch, and while many were reimplemented later, whenever I checked it out again it was just different. I stuck with Opera 12 for so long it wasn't even funny anymore, more and more pages broke every day, but eventually, slowly I got used to Firefox. Which really took a loooooong time, since I tried a lot of extensions and tweaks to make it feel right. Weird how strongly you can get attached to a browser and its UX. I think even switching from Windows to Linux wasn't that tough.
- nieve 5y ago
  I think a lot of the remaining Opera use is Opera Mini, possibly for its page size reducing proxy setup. On a site I do moderation for a noticeable amount of our most blatant trolling comes from that.
  - Rastonbury 5y ago
    Interesting