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I am sorry for your loss. But I am curious what "ate correctly" meant for him. Would you be kind enough to provide some details?

Karuma 5y ago
Sad to see you being downvoted like this, but I wanted to know the same thing you asked. It seems people are really sure that exercising a lot and not eating meat or whatever is the healthiest thing one can do, for weight and health reasons... But evidence says the complete opposite, most of the time. People are so fascinated about the idea that exercise and certain foods are so good, that they don't even bother to check the studies and the evidence, they just know it's true for some reason. It doesn't matter that everyone you know is going to a gym or running (a million more times than, say, 50 years ago) and yet the populations are only getting more obese by the minute. Or how athletes are dying young and have many health issues everywhere... Or that indigenous people don't even hunt or do nothing at all for a week (between each hunting trip), and yet they are so thin and don't have cancer. In other words, no one really knows yet if running several kilometers every day is good for you, or if it's actually killing you. And no one knows yet what exactly is "to eat correctly", though I'm pretty sure all the stuff we've read in those paid studies made in the last 100 years are just absolute garbage.
- fsflover 5y ago
  > And no one knows yet what exactly is "to eat correctly" https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you...
  - Karuma 5y ago
    Yeah, thanks for that link. That's exactly the kind of garbage I was talking about. They just take information out of (food-industry-sponsored) horrible studies, or just repeat the same old stuff they've been repeating since those first studies were published. That page even has the obligatory "stay active" in a "what to eat" recommendation. Five-star stuff. No wonder we've all become obese since these studies and articles started to pop up...
    - fsflover 5y ago
      > They just take information out of (food-industry-sponsored) horrible studies Any proof? > or just repeat the same old stuff they've been repeating since those first studies were published No. They used to tell that milk was necessary for the health, but now they tell a different story based on actual independent research.
- blindmute 5y ago
  People seem to hate it when you point things out like this. Had a guy in another thread become livid when I said I don't eat modern foods. You pretty much can't trust any nutritional study, and so as far as I'm concerned, eating like an antemodern hunter gatherer is as good as anything else. I'm not sure what young athletes could do to be healthier; I imagine most of their issues are environmental. I personally err on the side of preindustrial when any question of lifestyle comes up, but who knows.
lormayna 5y ago
No excess, no junk food, very few red meat (couple of day at week) and processed food, lot of fish and healty fat, no alchool.
- danuker 5y ago
  I am very thankful for your response. I wouldn't have guessed.
- Valakas_ 5y ago
  Definition of "junk food" also varies a lot. For example, many people have no idea that white bread has a higher glycemic index than sugar itself. So except for the very limited nutritional value of it, it's actually worse than just eating spoons full of sugar. So it passes the definition of "junk food", because hey it's not processed, and it's done in a bakery, traditional right? (not saying it's your case - in general) even though it's as junkier as it gets. It's possible some people do actually eat healthy and still get very unlucky. But I bet a lot of what many consider healthy isn't. Also, we don't know what we don't know. People didn't know about lead poisoning was a problem until they did. I wonder how many unhealhty stuff we do/consume that passes totally invisible in front of our eyes. The type of things future generations will look back and say "no wonder those people were dying so young of cardiovascular diseases and cancer they were doing X! And get this, they even thought it was healthy/they didn't even know about it!"

Karuma 5y ago

Sad to see you being downvoted like this, but I wanted to know the same thing you asked. It seems people are really sure that exercising a lot and not eating meat or whatever is the healthiest thing one can do, for weight and health reasons... But evidence says the complete opposite, most of the time. People are so fascinated about the idea that exercise and certain foods are so good, that they don't even bother to check the studies and the evidence, they just know it's true for some reason. It doesn't matter that everyone you know is going to a gym or running (a million more times than, say, 50 years ago) and yet the populations are only getting more obese by the minute. Or how athletes are dying young and have many health issues everywhere... Or that indigenous people don't even hunt or do nothing at all for a week (between each hunting trip), and yet they are so thin and don't have cancer. In other words, no one really knows yet if running several kilometers every day is good for you, or if it's actually killing you. And no one knows yet what exactly is "to eat correctly", though I'm pretty sure all the stuff we've read in those paid studies made in the last 100 years are just absolute garbage.

fsflover 5y ago
> And no one knows yet what exactly is "to eat correctly" https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you...
- Karuma 5y ago
  Yeah, thanks for that link. That's exactly the kind of garbage I was talking about. They just take information out of (food-industry-sponsored) horrible studies, or just repeat the same old stuff they've been repeating since those first studies were published. That page even has the obligatory "stay active" in a "what to eat" recommendation. Five-star stuff. No wonder we've all become obese since these studies and articles started to pop up...
  - fsflover 5y ago
    > They just take information out of (food-industry-sponsored) horrible studies Any proof? > or just repeat the same old stuff they've been repeating since those first studies were published No. They used to tell that milk was necessary for the health, but now they tell a different story based on actual independent research.
blindmute 5y ago
People seem to hate it when you point things out like this. Had a guy in another thread become livid when I said I don't eat modern foods. You pretty much can't trust any nutritional study, and so as far as I'm concerned, eating like an antemodern hunter gatherer is as good as anything else. I'm not sure what young athletes could do to be healthier; I imagine most of their issues are environmental. I personally err on the side of preindustrial when any question of lifestyle comes up, but who knows.

lormayna 5y ago

No excess, no junk food, very few red meat (couple of day at week) and processed food, lot of fish and healty fat, no alchool.

danuker 5y ago
I am very thankful for your response. I wouldn't have guessed.
Valakas_ 5y ago
Definition of "junk food" also varies a lot. For example, many people have no idea that white bread has a higher glycemic index than sugar itself. So except for the very limited nutritional value of it, it's actually worse than just eating spoons full of sugar. So it passes the definition of "junk food", because hey it's not processed, and it's done in a bakery, traditional right? (not saying it's your case - in general) even though it's as junkier as it gets. It's possible some people do actually eat healthy and still get very unlucky. But I bet a lot of what many consider healthy isn't. Also, we don't know what we don't know. People didn't know about lead poisoning was a problem until they did. I wonder how many unhealhty stuff we do/consume that passes totally invisible in front of our eyes. The type of things future generations will look back and say "no wonder those people were dying so young of cardiovascular diseases and cancer they were doing X! And get this, they even thought it was healthy/they didn't even know about it!"