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Is wanting to put your name in the history books not objectively rational?

by zpeti 5y ago

oblio 5y ago
Not if it kills you and not if it's infamy. Especially since he has kids, he'll be leaving them an extra bad legacy, even in his own country.
- zpeti 5y ago
  Oh come on, there are plenty of people in history who are willing to sacrifice their family for fame or fortune. You might not think it’s rational but it’s fairly common. Saying it’s irrational is explaining away pretty common behaviour with “they aren’t like me so they’re idiots”. Except it’s more your own empathy that’s lacking for understanding another perspective.
  - oblio 5y ago
    No, it's irrational :-) > The seven characteristics of life include: > responsiveness to the environment; > growth and change; > <<ability to reproduce;>> > have a metabolism and breathe; > maintain homeostasis; > being made of cells; and. > <<passing traits onto offspring.>> Putin is defective, he's making the lives of his own kids harder. I mean, I don't even need to say he's defective, it's obvious. He's a narcissist. There can be no empathy for autocrat narcissists. They don't have any and they don't deserve any.
  - Bancakes 5y ago
    You know what else is common, logical fallacies. You don't have to be one to know one, to know Putin's actions have brought poverty, misery, and death. Writing your name in history books 'just because' is not a well thought out motive, neither was the assault. Its irrational because it lacks rationality.
- dirtyid 5y ago
  Generations of Russians will build golden statues of Putin if he successfully conquer and holds on to Ukraine. It's hard to understate the significance of Putin's revanchist ambitions in relation to Russian cultural and strategic interests.
- ChuckNorris89 5y ago
  Putin's kids will be set for life financially, and can live a super safe and comfy life in neutral countries like Switzerland, New Zeeland or Austria.
  - oblio 5y ago
    If he wins. If he's deposed, they might be dead.
    - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
      I doubt his kids would be killed in Austria/Switzerland/New Zeeland. Plus, the former head of Mi6 warned not to try and corner Putin, since if he were to be personally severely threatened, he wouldn't hesitate to turn to using nuclear weapons and take the whole world down with him if he were to ever be ousted form power by the west.
      - glogla 5y ago
        "Not cornering Putin" just means giving him what he wants. It is the opposite of what we need to do - show how weak he is and let his own people give him Gaddafi ending.
        ChuckNorris89 5y ago
        >show how weak he is and let his own people give him Gaddafi ending Never gonna happen because: 1) The majority of the Russian population is still supportive of him, thinking they're fighting to liberate Ukraine from nazis and that the western sanctions are in place because the west hates them, rather than consequences for their leaders' war crimes 2) Like the former head of Mi6 said, Putin is so mad that if threatened, he's more likely to be ok with seeing the whole world get nuked, instead of going down like Gaddafi did, which is why the west is going so soft on him.
        glogla 5y ago
- freefaler 5y ago
  Do you know what happened to Goebbels children at the end of the war? Killed by their own parents. There is a wikipedia article about that. So we can't be certain what can parents do even when their decisions affect their own children. (sadly)

Is wanting to put your name in the history books not objectively rational?

by zpeti 5y ago

Is wanting to put your name in the history books not objectively rational?

Not if it kills you and not if it's infamy. Especially since he has kids, he'll be leaving them an extra bad legacy, even in his own country.

zpeti 5y ago
Oh come on, there are plenty of people in history who are willing to sacrifice their family for fame or fortune. You might not think it’s rational but it’s fairly common. Saying it’s irrational is explaining away pretty common behaviour with “they aren’t like me so they’re idiots”. Except it’s more your own empathy that’s lacking for understanding another perspective.
- oblio 5y ago
  No, it's irrational :-) > The seven characteristics of life include: > responsiveness to the environment; > growth and change; > <<ability to reproduce;>> > have a metabolism and breathe; > maintain homeostasis; > being made of cells; and. > <<passing traits onto offspring.>> Putin is defective, he's making the lives of his own kids harder. I mean, I don't even need to say he's defective, it's obvious. He's a narcissist. There can be no empathy for autocrat narcissists. They don't have any and they don't deserve any.
- Bancakes 5y ago
  You know what else is common, logical fallacies. You don't have to be one to know one, to know Putin's actions have brought poverty, misery, and death. Writing your name in history books 'just because' is not a well thought out motive, neither was the assault. Its irrational because it lacks rationality.
dirtyid 5y ago
Generations of Russians will build golden statues of Putin if he successfully conquer and holds on to Ukraine. It's hard to understate the significance of Putin's revanchist ambitions in relation to Russian cultural and strategic interests.
ChuckNorris89 5y ago
Putin's kids will be set for life financially, and can live a super safe and comfy life in neutral countries like Switzerland, New Zeeland or Austria.
- oblio 5y ago
  If he wins. If he's deposed, they might be dead.
  - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
    I doubt his kids would be killed in Austria/Switzerland/New Zeeland. Plus, the former head of Mi6 warned not to try and corner Putin, since if he were to be personally severely threatened, he wouldn't hesitate to turn to using nuclear weapons and take the whole world down with him if he were to ever be ousted form power by the west.
    - glogla 5y ago
      "Not cornering Putin" just means giving him what he wants. It is the opposite of what we need to do - show how weak he is and let his own people give him Gaddafi ending.
      - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
        >show how weak he is and let his own people give him Gaddafi ending Never gonna happen because: 1) The majority of the Russian population is still supportive of him, thinking they're fighting to liberate Ukraine from nazis and that the western sanctions are in place because the west hates them, rather than consequences for their leaders' war crimes 2) Like the former head of Mi6 said, Putin is so mad that if threatened, he's more likely to be ok with seeing the whole world get nuked, instead of going down like Gaddafi did, which is why the west is going so soft on him.
        glogla 5y ago
freefaler 5y ago
Do you know what happened to Goebbels children at the end of the war? Killed by their own parents. There is a wikipedia article about that. So we can't be certain what can parents do even when their decisions affect their own children. (sadly)