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Russia bombarded the designated areas where civilians were supposed to be able to flee cities. There were also mines found in some of those. And the humanitari

Russia bombarded the designated areas where civilians were supposed to be able to flee cities. There were also mines found in some of those. And the humanitarian corridors Russia recently designated lead to Belarus and Russia, which is not where the people want to be. The Russian effort to "help the civilians" are just deeply cynical PR and misdirection.

331c8c71 5y ago
- sofixa 5y ago
  > How do you know that? Because CNN? There are videos of people getting blown up, eyewitness accounts, and Ukrainian official accounts. It's not something debatable. > Have you maybe talked to people who didn't want to go there? Or it is the Ukranian government decided "their" people don't want to go there? So you think that many people would want to be refugees in the country actually invading and trying to destroy their own ? That's ridiculous and everyone knows it. The fact that few, if any, Ukrainians seem to be taking this option, confirm this.
  - 331c8c71 5y ago
    > There are videos of people getting blown up, eyewitness accounts, and Ukrainian official accounts. It's not something debatable. Obviously people are getting hurt and it's sad and tragic. Russian forces targeting civilians is a different matter though which needs to be substantiated. We simple can't know right now. > So you think that many people would want to be refugees in the country actually invading and trying to destroy their own ? I think that people sitting in the shelters for days might be actually quite open to a possibility of getting to a safe place. > The fact that few, if any, Ukrainians seem to be taking this option, confirm this. Have you considered a possibility that Ukranian authorities are effectively preventing massive evacuations towards russia/belarus because it would look bad for them in press.
    - dzikimarian 5y ago
      > Have you considered a possibility that Ukranian authorities are effectively preventing massive evacuations towards russia/belarus because it would look bad for them in press. I talked with people who ran to my country. I lack the words to describe how delusional is the idea, they would like to move anywhere closer to Russia, even if Putin personally came in his jet to pick them up.

331c8c71 5y ago

sofixa 5y ago
> How do you know that? Because CNN? There are videos of people getting blown up, eyewitness accounts, and Ukrainian official accounts. It's not something debatable. > Have you maybe talked to people who didn't want to go there? Or it is the Ukranian government decided "their" people don't want to go there? So you think that many people would want to be refugees in the country actually invading and trying to destroy their own ? That's ridiculous and everyone knows it. The fact that few, if any, Ukrainians seem to be taking this option, confirm this.
- 331c8c71 5y ago
  > There are videos of people getting blown up, eyewitness accounts, and Ukrainian official accounts. It's not something debatable. Obviously people are getting hurt and it's sad and tragic. Russian forces targeting civilians is a different matter though which needs to be substantiated. We simple can't know right now. > So you think that many people would want to be refugees in the country actually invading and trying to destroy their own ? I think that people sitting in the shelters for days might be actually quite open to a possibility of getting to a safe place. > The fact that few, if any, Ukrainians seem to be taking this option, confirm this. Have you considered a possibility that Ukranian authorities are effectively preventing massive evacuations towards russia/belarus because it would look bad for them in press.
  - dzikimarian 5y ago
    > Have you considered a possibility that Ukranian authorities are effectively preventing massive evacuations towards russia/belarus because it would look bad for them in press. I talked with people who ran to my country. I lack the words to describe how delusional is the idea, they would like to move anywhere closer to Russia, even if Putin personally came in his jet to pick them up.