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> Of course we always had the news, but a reporter showing the aftereffects from a safe distance are a bit different from the single soldier streaming the image

by mcintyre1994 5y ago

> Of course we always had the news, but a reporter showing the aftereffects from a safe distance are a bit different from the single soldier streaming the images of the Russian warship before telling them to go fuck themselves. The reporting isn’t like that here either though. Here’s a video of the Sky News UK team getting ambushed: https://news.sky.com/story/amp/sky-news-teams-harrowing-account-of-their-violent-ambush-in-ukraine-this-week-12557585 https://news.sky.com/story/amp/sky-news-teams-harrowing-acco...

rado 5y ago
SkyNews literally just said, "We are used to wars far away, but now the refugees are at our shores." Let that sink in.
- mcintyre1994 5y ago
  I’m not sure why that’s relevant to them getting ambushed but do you have a source for that? The Google results for “We are used to wars far away” are pretty barren, I suspect your comment might be the top search result when they get around to indexing it.
- hef19898 5y ago
  Well, more at our land borders. Europe didn't give a rats ass about the refugees at the actual shores before. Ignoring my inner cynic, it is good that we, the European countries, help Ukraine and the Ukrainian refugees, very good. But yes, I think the West is very much used to start wars in far away countries where we can ignore the consequences in our daily lives. Now someone else started it, close to our homes, and all of a sudden we cannot ignore it anymore. Comes as quite a shock to some, it seems.
  - saiya-jin 5y ago
    Which, long term, may bring benefits to mankind for generation or two, in form of stronger objections to any war. I agree, this war feels much closer and real than any other war in recent decades, and for me it actually is (coming from Slovakia). Not happy about this myself, we are all equal humans and it shouldn't matter how people dress, speak or religion they have, this reaction should be present in all cases of war.
  - xdennis 5y ago
    > Europe didn't give a rats ass about the refugees at the actual shores before. Europe took in millions of refugees from a different continent. Syrian/Afghan refugees took a longer route to Europe instead of Saudi Arabia. That's what an economic migrant does.
- rado 5y ago
  I think the person who said that was Ben Wallace, Secretary of State for Defence

rado 5y ago

SkyNews literally just said, "We are used to wars far away, but now the refugees are at our shores." Let that sink in.

mcintyre1994 5y ago
I’m not sure why that’s relevant to them getting ambushed but do you have a source for that? The Google results for “We are used to wars far away” are pretty barren, I suspect your comment might be the top search result when they get around to indexing it.
hef19898 5y ago
Well, more at our land borders. Europe didn't give a rats ass about the refugees at the actual shores before. Ignoring my inner cynic, it is good that we, the European countries, help Ukraine and the Ukrainian refugees, very good. But yes, I think the West is very much used to start wars in far away countries where we can ignore the consequences in our daily lives. Now someone else started it, close to our homes, and all of a sudden we cannot ignore it anymore. Comes as quite a shock to some, it seems.
- saiya-jin 5y ago
  Which, long term, may bring benefits to mankind for generation or two, in form of stronger objections to any war. I agree, this war feels much closer and real than any other war in recent decades, and for me it actually is (coming from Slovakia). Not happy about this myself, we are all equal humans and it shouldn't matter how people dress, speak or religion they have, this reaction should be present in all cases of war.
- xdennis 5y ago
  > Europe didn't give a rats ass about the refugees at the actual shores before. Europe took in millions of refugees from a different continent. Syrian/Afghan refugees took a longer route to Europe instead of Saudi Arabia. That's what an economic migrant does.
rado 5y ago
I think the person who said that was Ben Wallace, Secretary of State for Defence