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It's just a Russian propaganda in a compressed form. It's much easier to show contradictions in Russian propaganda by removing unessential fillers, which are us

by drran 5y ago

It's just a Russian propaganda in a compressed form. It's much easier to show contradictions in Russian propaganda by removing unessential fillers, which are used to separate contexts, with the goal for A to be equal to FOO in one context and A=BAR in another context. By extractions seeds of propaganda from different contexts and putting them side by side, it's possible to make a shortcut in the brain of a victim of the propaganda, so he will be confused with question «How it's possible for A to be FOO and BAR at the same time?». When your brain is not affected by Russian propaganda, then the text above will look like garbage for you. Shorter text works better than longer, because it's easier to create a shortcut with short text. Also, it's easier to remember, so harder to forget, easier to pass around. We used short anecdotes, single-sentence shortcuts, etc. I saw about a dozen of Russians with same «some football fans are using Nazi symbols -> Azov battalion is created by football fans -> Azov is Nazi -> Azov is part of Ukrainian army -> all Ukrainians are Nazi», but you did nothing to stop that. If you think that Russian propaganda enhances your site, then go ahead and ban me. If not, then propose a solution.

dang 5y ago
People sling accusations about propaganda based entirely on what they already believe. Anything they believe counts as truth, while anything the other side believes or supports is propaganda. This is how the human mind works under pressure. Everyone does it, and it's more evident than ever these days. Unfortunately, it's no basis for moderating an internet forum—or at least not this one. You need to follow the site guidelines the same as any other user here, and if you keep breaking them we will ban you. You can post thoughtfully and substantively even when you disagree with something so strongly as to regard it as propaganda. As for "you did nothing to stop that" - if you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it. We don't come close to seeing everything that gets posted here. People can let us know about posts that are breaking the site guidelines by flagging them, or in egregious cases by emailing hn@ycombinator.com. However, someone having a different view, even on a passionately divisive topic, does not automatically mean that they're breaking the site guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- drran 5y ago
  There is difference between beliefs, often created by meadia and news, and witnesses. As Ukrainian, I'm a more authoritative source of information about Ukraine and Ukrainians than other people. When I will see beliefs about me posted by people who never visited Ukraine and formed by Russian state TV, I will post my witness. These posts are not equal. My witness can be used in court, while Russian disbelief cannot. For example, the majority of HN'ers thinks or thought that «dang» is Chinese name, while very few know that «dang» means «dan g». However, the majority is not an authoritative source of information. I'm lieutenant of Ukrainian army. Your ban is least of my concern. Russians can ban me forever. HN works well over EDGE, so I can read it more easily than other sites. It's hard to write thoughtful comments for me right now, because I left my personal notebook at home, with all links and documents, because my internet connection doesn't allow me to browse internet freely, because HN may say that I'm posting too fast after writing long and thoughtful comment. You are not providing us with tools to fight propaganda, disinformation, and beliefs. I need something like a court system, where everybody can lay out all facts, and then they are accepted or discarded by judges. Otherwise, I'm forced to repeat my comments again and again. Create and iCourt for me, and we will use it instead of your site.

by drran 5y ago

dang 5y ago

People sling accusations about propaganda based entirely on what they already believe. Anything they believe counts as truth, while anything the other side believes or supports is propaganda. This is how the human mind works under pressure. Everyone does it, and it's more evident than ever these days. Unfortunately, it's no basis for moderating an internet forum—or at least not this one. You need to follow the site guidelines the same as any other user here, and if you keep breaking them we will ban you. You can post thoughtfully and substantively even when you disagree with something so strongly as to regard it as propaganda. As for "you did nothing to stop that" - if you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it. We don't come close to seeing everything that gets posted here. People can let us know about posts that are breaking the site guidelines by flagging them, or in egregious cases by emailing hn@ycombinator.com. However, someone having a different view, even on a passionately divisive topic, does not automatically mean that they're breaking the site guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

drran 5y ago
There is difference between beliefs, often created by meadia and news, and witnesses. As Ukrainian, I'm a more authoritative source of information about Ukraine and Ukrainians than other people. When I will see beliefs about me posted by people who never visited Ukraine and formed by Russian state TV, I will post my witness. These posts are not equal. My witness can be used in court, while Russian disbelief cannot. For example, the majority of HN'ers thinks or thought that «dang» is Chinese name, while very few know that «dang» means «dan g». However, the majority is not an authoritative source of information. I'm lieutenant of Ukrainian army. Your ban is least of my concern. Russians can ban me forever. HN works well over EDGE, so I can read it more easily than other sites. It's hard to write thoughtful comments for me right now, because I left my personal notebook at home, with all links and documents, because my internet connection doesn't allow me to browse internet freely, because HN may say that I'm posting too fast after writing long and thoughtful comment. You are not providing us with tools to fight propaganda, disinformation, and beliefs. I need something like a court system, where everybody can lay out all facts, and then they are accepted or discarded by judges. Otherwise, I'm forced to repeat my comments again and again. Create and iCourt for me, and we will use it instead of your site.