Yah, I just about died when I saw the $40k dealer markup on the ford raptor a couple years ago. It was a hard NO on my side at that point. I guess post cov19 wi

Yah, I just about died when I saw the $40k dealer markup on the ford raptor a couple years ago. It was a hard NO on my side at that point. I guess post cov19 with all the shortages there is an economic argument for it, but in the past you would think ford/etc would be more than happy to eat chevy/toyota/etc's market share if their dealers weren't playing games with the retail values of these cars, because in may locations the same company owns a whole bunch of dealerships for different companies. Buddy of mine, ~15 years ago, bought a couple cars by spamming the sales department via email what he was looking for in a 1000 mile radius then playing them against each other. I tried it to a lesser extend a few year after that though and they basically weren't playing ball. There is a reason a lot of auto communities call them the "stealership" and then post their $1200 radiator replacement quotes.