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Are you talking about the Russian guy, that came from a Russian party that was supposed to lead Ukraine in name of Russia? Doesn't seem like he had Ukrainian i

Are you talking about the Russian guy, that came from a Russian party that was supposed to lead Ukraine in name of Russia? Doesn't seem like he had Ukrainian interest in his priority list and considering your response ( justified or not), you were already aware of that.

yucky 5y ago
A coup is not an act of democracy. It was illegal, and against the Ukrainian Constitution. Everyone understands that Ukraine can never be part of NATO. And yet this new regime that took over after the coup has explicitly said that is what is going to happen. They even changed their Constitution after the coup to declare as much. Since Crimea is not recognized as Russian by Ukraine, then having Ukraine enter NATO means they will immediately be in conflict with the Russians in Crimea, leading to a World War. Russia will never let Ukraine have nuclear weapons, nor join NATO since it effectively means the same thing. So what is the solution, in your mind?
- NicoJuicy 5y ago
  Crimea is Ukraine, just look at it geographically. Crimea isn't even viable without Ukraine ( water). Who's talking about nuclear weapons, you're reading too much Russian propaganda.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
    Since parent poster's main and repeated talking point across comments is "the Ukranian coup" when referring to Maidan (1) it's clear that they're both reading and repeating Russian propaganda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity
    - yucky 5y ago
      Is it not a coup when there is a revolution that overthrows a democratically elected government, replaces it, then changes the Constitution?
      - SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
        It's a loaded term as it implies that the resulting government is _less_ legitimate, and that's a leading question. Say what you mean, don't try to mislead.
        yucky 5y ago
        It's only a loaded term because it's a big deal, but that is the textbook definition of a coup. I'm not even saying all coups are bad or unnecessary. But it was definitely a coup by every meaning of the word.
  - yucky 5y ago
    >Who's talking about nuclear weapons What do you think happens if NATO goes to war with Russia?

yucky 5y ago

A coup is not an act of democracy. It was illegal, and against the Ukrainian Constitution. Everyone understands that Ukraine can never be part of NATO. And yet this new regime that took over after the coup has explicitly said that is what is going to happen. They even changed their Constitution after the coup to declare as much. Since Crimea is not recognized as Russian by Ukraine, then having Ukraine enter NATO means they will immediately be in conflict with the Russians in Crimea, leading to a World War. Russia will never let Ukraine have nuclear weapons, nor join NATO since it effectively means the same thing. So what is the solution, in your mind?

NicoJuicy 5y ago
Crimea is Ukraine, just look at it geographically. Crimea isn't even viable without Ukraine ( water). Who's talking about nuclear weapons, you're reading too much Russian propaganda.
- SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
  Since parent poster's main and repeated talking point across comments is "the Ukranian coup" when referring to Maidan (1) it's clear that they're both reading and repeating Russian propaganda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity
  - yucky 5y ago
    Is it not a coup when there is a revolution that overthrows a democratically elected government, replaces it, then changes the Constitution?
    - SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
      It's a loaded term as it implies that the resulting government is _less_ legitimate, and that's a leading question. Say what you mean, don't try to mislead.
      - yucky 5y ago
        It's only a loaded term because it's a big deal, but that is the textbook definition of a coup. I'm not even saying all coups are bad or unnecessary. But it was definitely a coup by every meaning of the word.
- yucky 5y ago
  >Who's talking about nuclear weapons What do you think happens if NATO goes to war with Russia?