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because it is ain't over in those countries not one bit. How can you possibly even bring any data about South Korea or Hong Kong into this discussion when thes

because it is ain't over in those countries not one bit. How can you possibly even bring any data about South Korea or Hong Kong into this discussion when these place have the highest caseloads ever right at this moment? The caseload today (March 7, 2022) in Hong Kong per 100K people is 5000 cases, more the double (!) of the highest caseload ever observed in the US. Same story with South Korea. If anything, empirical data shows that using whatever measures they were doing lead to sudden, explosive caseloads.

throw_life 5y ago
It's as if the best you can do is delay the inevitable (which could also be re-phrased as "flatten the curve").
- glofish 5y ago
  they are doing the opposite, their current caseload growth is higher than that of other countries, That is not flattening for sure, it is more explosive - spiking the curve not flattening it.
d1sxeyes 5y ago
Let’s come back and talk once their combined cases reach higher than the US’s. Also I think worth noting that South Korea has better testing infrastructure, so their number is likely to be fairly accurate, while the number for the US is likely under-reported. Hong Kong’s number already seems to be dropping off.
- glofish 5y ago
  If you care about current assesments read this (published March 7, 2022): Unravelling the Role of the Mandatory Use of Face Covering Masks for the Control of SARS-CoV-2 in Schools: A Quasi-Experimental Study Nested in a Population-Based Cohort in Catalonia (Spain) https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4046809 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4046809 FCM = Face Covering Mandates > Interpretation: FCM mandates in schools were not associated with lower SARS-CoV-2 incidence or transmission, suggesting that this intervention was not effective. Instead, age-dependency was the most important factor in explaining the transmission risk for children attending school.
  - d1sxeyes 5y ago
    Thank you for sharing this. It is definitely very interesting and worthy of further study - especially given what we know already about how children and adults differ in response to COVID. I'd imagine we'll start to see more of these studies in the near future.

throw_life 5y ago

It's as if the best you can do is delay the inevitable (which could also be re-phrased as "flatten the curve").

glofish 5y ago
they are doing the opposite, their current caseload growth is higher than that of other countries, That is not flattening for sure, it is more explosive - spiking the curve not flattening it.

d1sxeyes 5y ago

Let’s come back and talk once their combined cases reach higher than the US’s. Also I think worth noting that South Korea has better testing infrastructure, so their number is likely to be fairly accurate, while the number for the US is likely under-reported. Hong Kong’s number already seems to be dropping off.

glofish 5y ago
If you care about current assesments read this (published March 7, 2022): Unravelling the Role of the Mandatory Use of Face Covering Masks for the Control of SARS-CoV-2 in Schools: A Quasi-Experimental Study Nested in a Population-Based Cohort in Catalonia (Spain) https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4046809 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4046809 FCM = Face Covering Mandates > Interpretation: FCM mandates in schools were not associated with lower SARS-CoV-2 incidence or transmission, suggesting that this intervention was not effective. Instead, age-dependency was the most important factor in explaining the transmission risk for children attending school.
- d1sxeyes 5y ago
  Thank you for sharing this. It is definitely very interesting and worthy of further study - especially given what we know already about how children and adults differ in response to COVID. I'd imagine we'll start to see more of these studies in the near future.