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How is it disingenuous to compare? According to Russia they are fighting neo-nazis, which is same as the US saying that they are fighting terrorists. It's onl

by voidr 5y ago

How is it disingenuous to compare? According to Russia they are fighting neo-nazis, which is same as the US saying that they are fighting terrorists. It's only disingenuous to compare if you fully believe one side, if you look at it critically, you would be hard pressed to not see them as the same thing. You have to be quite naive to believe that the US spends money attacking countries out of the kindness of their hearts and not to protect their interests(not other's), which sometimes means killing a "few" civilians or wrecking a country or two. Just look at all the horrible stuff China did and the Myanmar mass killings where the US didn't even bat an eye, because there was nothing to be gained.

rat87 5y ago
Because Russian claims about fighting neo nazis are ridiculous on their face. I don't claim the US doesn't take its interests into account when taking action or judging other countries but that doesn't mean they don't take humanitarian concerns to heart as well. Even on massive fuckups like the invasion of Iraq
- voidr 5y ago
  > Because Russian claims about fighting neo nazis are ridiculous on their face. It's only ridiculous if you believe one side fully and become fully ignorant at the other one and if you look a little bit, you might find some ethnic cleansing done by the Ukrainians. It is at least as strong as the USA's reasons for attacking other countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_policy_in_Ukraine#Ukraine's_2017_Education_Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_policy_in_Ukraine#Ukr... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odessa_clashes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odessa_clashes As an actual European who happened to grow up 20km away from the Ukrainian border, I find it frustrating to see all these western media outlets talk like they know anything about the situation while being barely able to even find these countries on a map. > but that doesn't mean they don't take humanitarian concerns to heart as well They don't, just look at how happy they were to feed the Afghan people to the Taliban(I'm talking about not giving them a chance to evacuate). They even left some weapons for the Taliban. You can also look at the fact that the US causes problems and doesn't really take in refugees, it just lets Europe deal with the mess they started. Please name a single country which became better after the US troops went in with their "democracy", if making the world a better place would be the goal for the US military they would be the biggest screwups in the universe.

by voidr 5y ago

rat87 5y ago

Because Russian claims about fighting neo nazis are ridiculous on their face. I don't claim the US doesn't take its interests into account when taking action or judging other countries but that doesn't mean they don't take humanitarian concerns to heart as well. Even on massive fuckups like the invasion of Iraq

voidr 5y ago
> Because Russian claims about fighting neo nazis are ridiculous on their face. It's only ridiculous if you believe one side fully and become fully ignorant at the other one and if you look a little bit, you might find some ethnic cleansing done by the Ukrainians. It is at least as strong as the USA's reasons for attacking other countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_policy_in_Ukraine#Ukraine's_2017_Education_Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_policy_in_Ukraine#Ukr... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odessa_clashes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odessa_clashes As an actual European who happened to grow up 20km away from the Ukrainian border, I find it frustrating to see all these western media outlets talk like they know anything about the situation while being barely able to even find these countries on a map. > but that doesn't mean they don't take humanitarian concerns to heart as well They don't, just look at how happy they were to feed the Afghan people to the Taliban(I'm talking about not giving them a chance to evacuate). They even left some weapons for the Taliban. You can also look at the fact that the US causes problems and doesn't really take in refugees, it just lets Europe deal with the mess they started. Please name a single country which became better after the US troops went in with their "democracy", if making the world a better place would be the goal for the US military they would be the biggest screwups in the universe.