>have heard from multiple Ukrainian sources that there is corruption and oligarchy in the Ukraine I never claimed that Ukraine was not corrupt and Russia corru

>have heard from multiple Ukrainian sources that there is corruption and oligarchy in the Ukraine I never claimed that Ukraine was not corrupt and Russia corrupted it. In fact, Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries out there. Very long way down the road in joining the EU(maybe it can be accelerated due to the war). What I'm talking about is the desire of people not to be part of the Russian way of governance and adopt the western practices. Anyway, let's not turn the discussion into another Russia VS Ukraine thread.