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Well, by all accounts (and I'd love to read others that diverge from this) this was actually Russia's exact strategy. Move to Kyiv quickly, destroy the existing

Well, by all accounts (and I'd love to read others that diverge from this) this was actually Russia's exact strategy. Move to Kyiv quickly, destroy the existing government, install a new puppet government, and announce it to the world quickly before the west could react. Russia doesn't have the manpower deployed to actually occupy Ukraine. 200,000 soldiers is not enough when the Ukrainian state is actively resisting. This is why they tried some absolutely suicidal paratrooper missions and they are having all of these apparent logistical issues (again if there are other sources I'd like to learn more please share). I think if I were to summarize the "Russia is failing" narrative it's that Russia expectations of a quick, easy victory were completely unmet, and now even if Russia does want to occupy Ukraine it's not going to be the quick and easy decapitation strike that they thought it would.

moralestapia 5y ago
>this was actually Russia's exact strategy >Russia expectations of a quick, easy victory I'd actually like to read more of this, if you have happen you have a source at hand.
- ericmay 5y ago
  Keeping in mind that Russia of course isn’t going to come out with a 1-pager on their strategy, there are a lot of sources on this. Understandably if you are hung up on the 24 hours thing I mean there isn’t a source for that but suffice to say the sooner the better was their goal. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-believes-russia-planning-decapitate-ukraines-government-2022-02-24/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us-believes-russia-planning-de... https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2022/03/05/ukraine-putins-war-kyiv-turning-into-long-slog-death-despair/9377108002/?gnt-cfr=1 https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2022/03/05/ukraine... https://breakingdefense.com/2022/02/russia-aiming-to-decapitate-ukrainian-government-us-official/amp/ https://breakingdefense.com/2022/02/russia-aiming-to-decapit... https://www.axios.com/russia-seeking-decapitate-ukrainian-government-zelensky-21db13f6-bae0-47b6-93a4-8a6f137ea7ad.html https://www.axios.com/russia-seeking-decapitate-ukrainian-go... https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-invasion-of-ukraine-was-extreme-option-worst-case-scenario-2022-2?amp https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-invasion-of-ukraine-w...
  - moralestapia 5y ago
    Thank you, that's interesting to know. I had the impression that the Russian plan was to just get there and just never leave until Ukraine kind of surrenders or whatever.
    - ericmay 5y ago
      For all we know that’s the plan now… who knows at this point.
kamaal 5y ago
>>I'd love to read others that diverge from this So your argument is you assume Russia wanted to take Ukraine in 100 milliseconds, and if people can't prove you wrong you win?
- ericmay 5y ago
  No?

moralestapia 5y ago

>this was actually Russia's exact strategy >Russia expectations of a quick, easy victory I'd actually like to read more of this, if you have happen you have a source at hand.

ericmay 5y ago
Keeping in mind that Russia of course isn’t going to come out with a 1-pager on their strategy, there are a lot of sources on this. Understandably if you are hung up on the 24 hours thing I mean there isn’t a source for that but suffice to say the sooner the better was their goal. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-believes-russia-planning-decapitate-ukraines-government-2022-02-24/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us-believes-russia-planning-de... https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2022/03/05/ukraine-putins-war-kyiv-turning-into-long-slog-death-despair/9377108002/?gnt-cfr=1 https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2022/03/05/ukraine... https://breakingdefense.com/2022/02/russia-aiming-to-decapitate-ukrainian-government-us-official/amp/ https://breakingdefense.com/2022/02/russia-aiming-to-decapit... https://www.axios.com/russia-seeking-decapitate-ukrainian-government-zelensky-21db13f6-bae0-47b6-93a4-8a6f137ea7ad.html https://www.axios.com/russia-seeking-decapitate-ukrainian-go... https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-invasion-of-ukraine-was-extreme-option-worst-case-scenario-2022-2?amp https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-invasion-of-ukraine-w...
- moralestapia 5y ago
  Thank you, that's interesting to know. I had the impression that the Russian plan was to just get there and just never leave until Ukraine kind of surrenders or whatever.
  - ericmay 5y ago
    For all we know that’s the plan now… who knows at this point.

kamaal 5y ago

>>I'd love to read others that diverge from this So your argument is you assume Russia wanted to take Ukraine in 100 milliseconds, and if people can't prove you wrong you win?

ericmay 5y ago
No?