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In War NATO makes sense as command structure. But I can imagine "EU Army" structure for things like equipment procurement, trainings and so on for the economies
by glogla 5y ago
In War NATO makes sense as command structure. But I can imagine "EU Army" structure for things like equipment procurement, trainings and so on for the economies of scale and better alignment.
It makes little sense for small EU countries to do that by themselves, when the whole of Slovakia will have like 6 fighter planes and 20 IFVs. At the same time, procurement is pretty political, since many countries are deep in weapons trade, so maybe it wouldn't work.
- jupp0r 5y agoIt would also be a path for abysmally inefficient defense departments like Germany's to make sweeping changes while still keeping face.
- adwn 5y agoMaybe we could get rid of the Gorch Fock [1] while we're at it. A sailing ship in the 21st century, causing repair costs well in excess of 100 million EUR, and killing sailors in training. JFC. A lot of people had to pay a lot of taxes to finance that shitty exercise in futility. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_training_ship_Gorch_Fock_(1958) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_training_ship_Gorch_Foc...
- waffleiron 5y agoI am not in the navy but I assume there is a good reason tall ships are used for training as quite a few countries do, just a few examples: Portugal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NRP_Sagres_(1937) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NRP_Sagres_(1937) US Coast Guard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCGC_Eagle_(WIX-327) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCGC_Eagle_(WIX-327) Italy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_training_ship_Amerigo_Vespucci https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_training_ship_Amerigo_... Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS_Mir https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS_Mir Peru: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAP_Uni%C3%B3n https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAP_Uni%C3%B3n See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Training_ship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Training_ship
- jupp0r 5y agoThe USCGC Eagle was actually built in Nazi Germany and seized by the US after world war II.
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- waffleiron 5y agoI really like how the steel hull looks on these boats, specifically the Eagle and the Peruvian boat. It's seems so out of place, my mind just expects to see a wooden hull.
- Semaphor 5y agoJust make sure us Germans don’t run procurement, or we’ll start outspending the USA for less equipment.
- makomk 5y agoThe last politician in charge of German defence procurement failed upwards and is currently the (unelected) President of the European Commission thanks to some clever political wrangling, so odds probably aren't great on that front...