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What use is a mutual defense pact when only one of the parties is capable of defending themselves let alone anyone else? Americans are tired of fighting everyon
by willcipriano 5y ago
What use is a mutual defense pact when only one of the parties is capable of defending themselves let alone anyone else? Americans are tired of fighting everyone else's wars. We don't even get respect for it, just comments about how we don't have socialized medicine and are backwards brutes. It's pointless.
- InitialLastName 5y ago> Americans are tired of fighting everyone else's wars. Did I miss something, or have the last twenty years have been characterized by the US drawing NATO members into the US's wars?
- tediousdemise 5y agoGood point. It really does seem like the US uses NATO countries as proxies for its global imperialism campaign.
- willcipriano 5y agoSounds like everyone involved would be happier just to scrap the thing and go our own way then.
- InitialLastName 5y agoI don't know that that's true. I'd argue that the level of military involvement is roughly proportional to the level of military investment; i.e. the US contributes most of the military power, and also instigates most of the military activity.
- q1w2 5y agoThe only two times NATO was activated was for Kosovo, and then for 9-11. In one case it was a european war, and in the other the US was attacked.
- Zigurd 5y agoThe US had steadfast NATO member backing for what turned out to be a badly conceived Global War on Terror.
- aivisol 5y agoI would like to add here that Baltics (along with others) have served their fair share as a buffer against Russian expansion into west for good part of the 20th century by being occupied by Soviets and incorporated into USSR. Who knows how far to the west the Iron Curtain would divide Europe if not for these countries. And they paid with tens of thousands deported to prison camps [1] and decades long crippling of societies and economy under soviets. So I think there is also a little bit of moral obligation of West (incl. US) to support them today. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_deportation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_deportation
- xdennis 5y ago> Americans are tired of fighting everyone else's wars. NATO was formed to fight Russia's expansionism, but for 30 years it's done nothing but fight the USA's wars of choice. Americans have fought nobody else's wars and are already tired...
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- q1w2 5y agoThis comment completely lacks reality. NATO only ever fought in Serbia/Kosovo, and then in response to 9-11. Once was a European war, and the other time the US was attacked.