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My anecdotal two-cents: I will stay up nearly indefinitely in bed if I read my phone or iPad. Read the same material on my Kindle Paperwhite and it can be diff

My anecdotal two-cents: I will stay up nearly indefinitely in bed if I read my phone or iPad. Read the same material on my Kindle Paperwhite and it can be difficult to stay awake more than a few minutes. I don’t know if it has anything to do with the difference in screen types, as my Kindle does have a backlight but it is so night and day for me, I am predisposed to believe anything that states there is a mechanism for my experience.

IRP 5y ago
Leds in a phone or tablet screen are directing the light to your eyes, where with a backlit screen, that light is diffused over the area of the screen. So the intensity of direct light from "LE-eReaders" is probably way higher than that of a backlit screen. Also, it might have to see with the level of blue light that is emitted by those devices. Light in backlit screens is somewhat filtered and might not contain as much blue.
- Karawebnetwork 5y ago
  Elsewhere I would agree with you but this study was using: "The randomized, crossover protocol design consisted of two conditions: (i) reading an LE-eBook (iPad; Apple Inc., Cupertino, CA) in otherwise very dim room light for ∼4 h before bedtime for five consecutive evenings, and (ii) reading printed books in the same very dim room light for ∼4 h before bedtime for five consecutive evenings" In other words, they compared using a tablet to reading a book. Unsurprisingly, they found that using the tablet negatively affects sleep.
  - manicdee 5y ago
    During LE-eBook reading sessions, the light-emitting device was set to maximum brightness and placed in a stand that held it at a fixed angle. This stand was placed on a table directly in front of the individual at a 30- to 45-cm distance from their eyes. Participants were allowed to turn pages on the LE-eBook, but were asked not to hold it while reading or make any adjustments to the settings. During the printed book reading sessions, participants were allowed to hold the book at any desired distance from their eyes. —— Note that maximum brightness on an iPad is intended for reading in direct sunlight.
- nicoburns 5y ago
  > Also, it might have to see with the level of blue light that is emitted by those devices In my experience backlit screens contain a lot of blue. I have been able remove the waking effect of my screen entirely using a heavy red filter provided by f.lux. But with the default settings, and even Apple's night shift implementation it's very blue. It is slightly less bad on newer devices that support "TrueTone".
Karawebnetwork 5y ago
I can add an anectode at the other end of the sleep cycle: I used to have a hard time waking up, even with alarms. Now I just reach for my phone while I'm still half asleep. The bright screen wakes me up every time.
BaseballPhysics 5y ago
> I will stay up nearly indefinitely in bed if I read my phone or iPad. Read the same material on my Kindle Paperwhite and it can be difficult to stay awake more than a few minutes. I've noticed the same thing! Glad to see I'm not nuts...
manicdee 5y ago
Try setting the screen to greyscale. For me personally switching to greyscale immediateky makes the device less rewarding to simply look at. When it is colour I am mesmerised by the beautiful colours and end up reading the text without actually taking anything in.

IRP 5y ago

Leds in a phone or tablet screen are directing the light to your eyes, where with a backlit screen, that light is diffused over the area of the screen. So the intensity of direct light from "LE-eReaders" is probably way higher than that of a backlit screen. Also, it might have to see with the level of blue light that is emitted by those devices. Light in backlit screens is somewhat filtered and might not contain as much blue.

Karawebnetwork 5y ago
Elsewhere I would agree with you but this study was using: "The randomized, crossover protocol design consisted of two conditions: (i) reading an LE-eBook (iPad; Apple Inc., Cupertino, CA) in otherwise very dim room light for ∼4 h before bedtime for five consecutive evenings, and (ii) reading printed books in the same very dim room light for ∼4 h before bedtime for five consecutive evenings" In other words, they compared using a tablet to reading a book. Unsurprisingly, they found that using the tablet negatively affects sleep.
- manicdee 5y ago
  During LE-eBook reading sessions, the light-emitting device was set to maximum brightness and placed in a stand that held it at a fixed angle. This stand was placed on a table directly in front of the individual at a 30- to 45-cm distance from their eyes. Participants were allowed to turn pages on the LE-eBook, but were asked not to hold it while reading or make any adjustments to the settings. During the printed book reading sessions, participants were allowed to hold the book at any desired distance from their eyes. —— Note that maximum brightness on an iPad is intended for reading in direct sunlight.
nicoburns 5y ago
> Also, it might have to see with the level of blue light that is emitted by those devices In my experience backlit screens contain a lot of blue. I have been able remove the waking effect of my screen entirely using a heavy red filter provided by f.lux. But with the default settings, and even Apple's night shift implementation it's very blue. It is slightly less bad on newer devices that support "TrueTone".

Karawebnetwork 5y ago

I can add an anectode at the other end of the sleep cycle: I used to have a hard time waking up, even with alarms. Now I just reach for my phone while I'm still half asleep. The bright screen wakes me up every time.

BaseballPhysics 5y ago

> I will stay up nearly indefinitely in bed if I read my phone or iPad. Read the same material on my Kindle Paperwhite and it can be difficult to stay awake more than a few minutes. I've noticed the same thing! Glad to see I'm not nuts...

manicdee 5y ago

Try setting the screen to greyscale. For me personally switching to greyscale immediateky makes the device less rewarding to simply look at. When it is colour I am mesmerised by the beautiful colours and end up reading the text without actually taking anything in.