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Copy-paste of a comment from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfArW6zppYw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfArW6zppYw Here’s the situation and the order o

Copy-paste of a comment from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfArW6zppYw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfArW6zppYw Here’s the situation and the order of events that led to this invasion: Pro-Russian government was in power pre-2014. Violent coup overthrew the government in 2014 and installed a pro western, anti Russian government. This caused the mostly ethnic Russian region of Donbass to declare independence and break away from Ukraine, resulting in war. Russia tacitly supported them, but did not recognise them. The Minsk Accords was supposed to end the fighting in 2015, but Ukraine has not lived up to the agreement. Ukraine has been shelling and bombing the region on and off for 8 years now. Putin finally decided enough is enough and recognised the region as independent. He sent troops into the area to protect it and his invasion of Ukraine is meant to destroy the Ukrainian military to prevent them from attacking Donbass. Now its up to you whether you think Putin is sincere or he's just using it as an excuse to grab Ukrainian territory. Geopolitics is complicated and believing anyone is innocent in geopolitics is ludicrous at best.

Etherlord87 5y ago
> Pro-Russian government was in power pre-2014. Sounds about right. > Violent coup overthrew the government in 2014 and installed a pro western, anti Russian government. That's already where the chain breaks. Ukrainian people, not military, overthrew the government. Of course that can be argued, how do we know that - did the majority agree with the protesters? You could make a poll, but to be sure the results aren't manipulated, you have to make a referendum... Or just an election, in which who was elected? Did Putin send observers to control the elections, did he point out the problems with the system? No? Well, that's where this narration breaks. The world is full of such subtle solutions like election monitoring; it's ridiculous to claim benevolence but skip those solutions and go straight to violence.

Etherlord87 5y ago

> Pro-Russian government was in power pre-2014. Sounds about right. > Violent coup overthrew the government in 2014 and installed a pro western, anti Russian government. That's already where the chain breaks. Ukrainian people, not military, overthrew the government. Of course that can be argued, how do we know that - did the majority agree with the protesters? You could make a poll, but to be sure the results aren't manipulated, you have to make a referendum... Or just an election, in which who was elected? Did Putin send observers to control the elections, did he point out the problems with the system? No? Well, that's where this narration breaks. The world is full of such subtle solutions like election monitoring; it's ridiculous to claim benevolence but skip those solutions and go straight to violence.