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Were these laws even really enforced in the first place? Russia has always been pretty notorious for piracy.

MrDisposable 5y ago
In recent years, no. Everyone was afraid of huge fines (and maybe even jail terms, if memory serves) for pirated software, and there was a time when police actively searched office computers for pirated software from major suppliers that had branches in Russia (Microsoft, Adobe, Autodesk etc). Torrents, on the other hand, is an entirely different story.
kobalsky 5y ago
I don't know what the deal is in Russia but in Argentina piracy is rampant but Microsoft has been ruthless and they have done stuff it would make your skin crawl. Microsoft basically has power of police here. I don't know who they bribed or in exchange of what or how they managed to achieve this. They go for companies, basically they send you an email and ask you about your infrastructure, licenses and tell you on X day we will be there to audit the software licenses that you are using. This is not optional, this is mandatory. You have to let them in since they will come with cops if necessary. We have dealt with them sadly, but we are a linux only shop so we made abundtantly clear that we were going to fight until the end to make them accountable and bill them dearly for every second they spent here. After a few back and forths they decided it wasn't necessary to audit our company, probably not because of our indisposition, but because they probably realized we weren't lying and there was no money to collect here. To add insult to injury they will use these emails to offer you Microsoft Teams. It's insane. I cannot wish them ill enough.
- fluoridation 5y ago
  I'm from Argentina. I've heard this before and I didn't really believe it, and maybe I still don't. Like, there are so many things you might do that could be a spanner in the works for this scheme. What if you hang up on them? What if you refuse to answer the door? To my knowledge there are no laws that require one to open the door for police; if they have an order from a judge they don't need to knock. What if you refuse to unlock your systems to allow them to inspect them? Do you know where I could get more information on this?
  - kobalsky 5y ago
    laws 11723 and 25036, they can get a judge's order, google: software legal allanamientos don't confuse raids of people distributing software illegaly, this happened to companies that were suspected of using pirated versions at some scale and for some reason didn't want to settle.
    - fluoridation 5y ago
      What I'm reading is that they basically do have warrants. What a bunch of crooks, both the judges and the corporate drones.

In recent years, no. Everyone was afraid of huge fines (and maybe even jail terms, if memory serves) for pirated software, and there was a time when police actively searched office computers for pirated software from major suppliers that had branches in Russia (Microsoft, Adobe, Autodesk etc). Torrents, on the other hand, is an entirely different story.

kobalsky 5y ago

I don't know what the deal is in Russia but in Argentina piracy is rampant but Microsoft has been ruthless and they have done stuff it would make your skin crawl. Microsoft basically has power of police here. I don't know who they bribed or in exchange of what or how they managed to achieve this. They go for companies, basically they send you an email and ask you about your infrastructure, licenses and tell you on X day we will be there to audit the software licenses that you are using. This is not optional, this is mandatory. You have to let them in since they will come with cops if necessary. We have dealt with them sadly, but we are a linux only shop so we made abundtantly clear that we were going to fight until the end to make them accountable and bill them dearly for every second they spent here. After a few back and forths they decided it wasn't necessary to audit our company, probably not because of our indisposition, but because they probably realized we weren't lying and there was no money to collect here. To add insult to injury they will use these emails to offer you Microsoft Teams. It's insane. I cannot wish them ill enough.

fluoridation 5y ago
I'm from Argentina. I've heard this before and I didn't really believe it, and maybe I still don't. Like, there are so many things you might do that could be a spanner in the works for this scheme. What if you hang up on them? What if you refuse to answer the door? To my knowledge there are no laws that require one to open the door for police; if they have an order from a judge they don't need to knock. What if you refuse to unlock your systems to allow them to inspect them? Do you know where I could get more information on this?
- kobalsky 5y ago
  laws 11723 and 25036, they can get a judge's order, google: software legal allanamientos don't confuse raids of people distributing software illegaly, this happened to companies that were suspected of using pirated versions at some scale and for some reason didn't want to settle.
  - fluoridation 5y ago
    What I'm reading is that they basically do have warrants. What a bunch of crooks, both the judges and the corporate drones.