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Blocking porn and video games would cause teenage boys to revolt.

DocTomoe 5y ago
Because it is somehow morally acceptable to puppeteer some teenage boys as quasi-child soldiers to reach ones goals? We should be very careful on our strategy here. Alienating a whole new generation of Russians cannot lead to good results in the future. We should have learned that from 20 years in Afghanistan.
- WinstonSmith84 5y ago
  And this comment has been downvoted. This is quite telling ...
  - rbanffy 5y ago
    I believe it takes a suggestion made in jest way too seriously.
- latexr 5y ago
  > Because it is somehow morally acceptable to puppeteer some teenage boys as quasi-child soldiers to reach ones goals? That’s not what the comment you’re replying to said, but the way you phrased it makes it seem like it was. I’d wager the comment was made in jest, but even it wasn’t it expressed a though without commenting on its morality or expressing agreement. You can claim “doing X would lead to Y” and vehemently oppose either or both. Consider an alternative: “I don’t find it morally acceptable to puppeteer some teenage boys as quasi-child soldiers to reach ones goals”. You’d have shared your opinion just the same without confronting the other person for an argument they didn’t make (which in turn is earning you downvotes and burying your otherwise valid point).
FooBarBizBazz 5y ago
If Reddit and nofap are to be believed, it will have the effect of turning the Russian troops into hypermotivated superheroes. Actually, if the whole conservative/Orthodox angle is as big as it seems (which would pain me), then we'd sort of be doing them a favor. They'd be happy to rid their society of that. Maybe they're even right. No Ottoman sultan ever neutralized his nephew by giving him cold showers and clean living. What he'd do is put the nephew in the harem.
- hprotagonist 5y ago
  …as a eunuch, perhaps.
- aaron695 5y ago
  Removing or decreasing access to porn would increase societal sexual violence. Which would make Russia much worse off, but I'm not sure a more violent and dystopian Russia is what we want. This is different to the voluntary don't watch porn which is quite self disciplined. But I'm pretty sure Russia has the whole porn/internet thing sorted out and doesn't need the West. It's exciting to see what else they might do when cut off, could they hack out gaming servers? Now it's a retributionary attack on the West to kill their copyright and possibly make some money. USSR with a pipeline of free (digital) goods coming in might be a different place. Fight Piracy with Piracy. The West has more to lose there.

Because it is somehow morally acceptable to puppeteer some teenage boys as quasi-child soldiers to reach ones goals? We should be very careful on our strategy here. Alienating a whole new generation of Russians cannot lead to good results in the future. We should have learned that from 20 years in Afghanistan.

WinstonSmith84 5y ago
And this comment has been downvoted. This is quite telling ...
- rbanffy 5y ago
  I believe it takes a suggestion made in jest way too seriously.
latexr 5y ago
> Because it is somehow morally acceptable to puppeteer some teenage boys as quasi-child soldiers to reach ones goals? That’s not what the comment you’re replying to said, but the way you phrased it makes it seem like it was. I’d wager the comment was made in jest, but even it wasn’t it expressed a though without commenting on its morality or expressing agreement. You can claim “doing X would lead to Y” and vehemently oppose either or both. Consider an alternative: “I don’t find it morally acceptable to puppeteer some teenage boys as quasi-child soldiers to reach ones goals”. You’d have shared your opinion just the same without confronting the other person for an argument they didn’t make (which in turn is earning you downvotes and burying your otherwise valid point).

FooBarBizBazz 5y ago

If Reddit and nofap are to be believed, it will have the effect of turning the Russian troops into hypermotivated superheroes. Actually, if the whole conservative/Orthodox angle is as big as it seems (which would pain me), then we'd sort of be doing them a favor. They'd be happy to rid their society of that. Maybe they're even right. No Ottoman sultan ever neutralized his nephew by giving him cold showers and clean living. What he'd do is put the nephew in the harem.

hprotagonist 5y ago
…as a eunuch, perhaps.
aaron695 5y ago
Removing or decreasing access to porn would increase societal sexual violence. Which would make Russia much worse off, but I'm not sure a more violent and dystopian Russia is what we want. This is different to the voluntary don't watch porn which is quite self disciplined. But I'm pretty sure Russia has the whole porn/internet thing sorted out and doesn't need the West. It's exciting to see what else they might do when cut off, could they hack out gaming servers? Now it's a retributionary attack on the West to kill their copyright and possibly make some money. USSR with a pipeline of free (digital) goods coming in might be a different place. Fight Piracy with Piracy. The West has more to lose there.