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> never had the wait-staff chase me I have. I went to a Chinese buffet in Raleigh, North Carolina, with my family. We finished eating, went to the cashier an

> never had the wait-staff chase me I have. I went to a Chinese buffet in Raleigh, North Carolina, with my family. We finished eating, went to the cashier and paid, then we left. As we were getting into our car the 'waiter' who had sloshed lemonade into out glasses ran up loudly complaining that we hadn't left him a tip. Why such people should be tipped is beyond me. Anyway, I further insulted him by handing him a single dollar bill, with a smile.

alisonkisk 5y ago
> Why such people should be tipped is beyond me. Because that person is paid $2.50/hr for their work. If you don't want to tip, you should boycott the restaurant until they implement a fair wage policy.
- vinay427 5y ago
  > Because that person is paid $2.50/hr for their work. This is an illegal wage according to federal minimum wage laws. I can't imagine the GP commenter should be responsible for labor law violations beyond reporting it to the relevant local agency. Many states go even farther, requiring the same minimum wage (excluding tips) even for tipped employees, but the federal law already requires minimum wage including tips. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage
- geodel 5y ago
  Meanwhile restaurants can take a lead by putting a big honking notice "NO-TIPPERS ARE NOT WELCOME!" or some such clear message to customers. Unlike boycott this way customers are given ample chance to behave even if they are not local and visiting first time.
hypertele-Xii 5y ago
I left a $10 tip at a Chinese buffet I frequented in Finland to a friendly waiter. They insisted it covered payment for my next lunch. Finland doesn't have strong tipping culture, but it still felt strange for a restaurant to outright refuse a tip, especially a foreign one :D
- yencabulator 5y ago
  Offering a tip can even be considered offensive. Something along the lines of "You normally do a very poor job, can I bribe you to at least try this time?"
  - vinay427 5y ago
    Your point stands about tips being considered offensive, but isn't avoiding that rationale part of why tips almost always follow the service in question? I understood one possible reason being that people want their (hopefully diligent and appropriately generous) service to be seen as the default, rather than something worthy of an additional reward for any special treatment.

alisonkisk 5y ago

> Why such people should be tipped is beyond me. Because that person is paid $2.50/hr for their work. If you don't want to tip, you should boycott the restaurant until they implement a fair wage policy.

vinay427 5y ago
> Because that person is paid $2.50/hr for their work. This is an illegal wage according to federal minimum wage laws. I can't imagine the GP commenter should be responsible for labor law violations beyond reporting it to the relevant local agency. Many states go even farther, requiring the same minimum wage (excluding tips) even for tipped employees, but the federal law already requires minimum wage including tips. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage
geodel 5y ago
Meanwhile restaurants can take a lead by putting a big honking notice "NO-TIPPERS ARE NOT WELCOME!" or some such clear message to customers. Unlike boycott this way customers are given ample chance to behave even if they are not local and visiting first time.

hypertele-Xii 5y ago

I left a $10 tip at a Chinese buffet I frequented in Finland to a friendly waiter. They insisted it covered payment for my next lunch. Finland doesn't have strong tipping culture, but it still felt strange for a restaurant to outright refuse a tip, especially a foreign one :D

yencabulator 5y ago
Offering a tip can even be considered offensive. Something along the lines of "You normally do a very poor job, can I bribe you to at least try this time?"
- vinay427 5y ago
  Your point stands about tips being considered offensive, but isn't avoiding that rationale part of why tips almost always follow the service in question? I understood one possible reason being that people want their (hopefully diligent and appropriately generous) service to be seen as the default, rather than something worthy of an additional reward for any special treatment.