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This has been known for decades. It's just that this fact conflicts with the mask-mandate crowd so any talk of it was cause for being banned from YouTube, Reddi

This has been known for decades. It's just that this fact conflicts with the mask-mandate crowd so any talk of it was cause for being banned from YouTube, Reddit, and Twitter. I am so disappointed with the level of allowed debate over the last two years. Warring ideological factions with absolutely no qualms with suppressing uncomfortable facts which were not in service to their chosen dogma. I'm not sure what the path forward is here but we need a collective retrospective to make sure we never, ever do this again.

WaxedChewbacca 5y ago
piva00 5y ago
And this kind of discourse framing the side you consider hysterical as "the mask-mandate crowd" is just playing into the exact thing you are criticising. So I'm very sure we all need to look ourselves in the mirror.
- loceng 5y ago
  How would you more accurately describe that group?
  - ykevinator2 5y ago
- Gareth321 5y ago
  I consider that to be factually correct. How would you describe the group which advocates for mask mandates?
- throw_life 5y ago
  Try being called "anti mask antivaxx Covidiot granny-killer" for two years and then we can talk about unfair discourse framing. I take your point though - we all have a lot to learn about how we are going to come back together as a society.
- taylorius 5y ago
  "So I'm very sure we all need to look ourselves in the mirror." The problem with this "everyone's to blame, lets just heal and move on" is that what happened never gets addressed. There have been serious policy failures, along with possible corruption and collusion between institutions that are supposed to be above reproach. Institutions that we need to trust. People were told to "listen to the science" - and they did, largely. They trusted "the science" with their lives. Now it seems Pfizer petitioned a court to keep their vaccine trial data private for 75 years. That doesn't sound very scientific to me. Nor does the published video call between two UK scientists arguing about the suppression of data related to Ivermectin. But no, "science" is fine - we're all to blame, so lets just move on, right?
  - throw_life 5y ago
    History will remember our response to Covid as one of the greatest outbreaks of mass hysteria, and the time when a supposedly atheistic society developed their own religion. I even made a quick guide: https://www.bicyclerepairman.cc/laymans_guide/ https://www.bicyclerepairman.cc/laymans_guide/
- infamouscow 5y ago
  The people demonizing anyone questioning mask-mandates need to look themselves in the mirror. They don't get to feign ignorance.

WaxedChewbacca 5y ago

piva00 5y ago

And this kind of discourse framing the side you consider hysterical as "the mask-mandate crowd" is just playing into the exact thing you are criticising. So I'm very sure we all need to look ourselves in the mirror.

loceng 5y ago
How would you more accurately describe that group?
- ykevinator2 5y ago
Gareth321 5y ago
I consider that to be factually correct. How would you describe the group which advocates for mask mandates?
throw_life 5y ago
Try being called "anti mask antivaxx Covidiot granny-killer" for two years and then we can talk about unfair discourse framing. I take your point though - we all have a lot to learn about how we are going to come back together as a society.
taylorius 5y ago
"So I'm very sure we all need to look ourselves in the mirror." The problem with this "everyone's to blame, lets just heal and move on" is that what happened never gets addressed. There have been serious policy failures, along with possible corruption and collusion between institutions that are supposed to be above reproach. Institutions that we need to trust. People were told to "listen to the science" - and they did, largely. They trusted "the science" with their lives. Now it seems Pfizer petitioned a court to keep their vaccine trial data private for 75 years. That doesn't sound very scientific to me. Nor does the published video call between two UK scientists arguing about the suppression of data related to Ivermectin. But no, "science" is fine - we're all to blame, so lets just move on, right?
- throw_life 5y ago
  History will remember our response to Covid as one of the greatest outbreaks of mass hysteria, and the time when a supposedly atheistic society developed their own religion. I even made a quick guide: https://www.bicyclerepairman.cc/laymans_guide/ https://www.bicyclerepairman.cc/laymans_guide/
infamouscow 5y ago
The people demonizing anyone questioning mask-mandates need to look themselves in the mirror. They don't get to feign ignorance.