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Two beers a day is very, very dangerous according to my girlfriend, a social worker.

Out_of_Characte 5y ago
All I can say is that mindset is more important than amount consumed. Just look at depressed people drinking, a single beer already makes the person more likely to become an alcoholic. yet two or thee beers every evening wouldn't suddenly create an alcoholic out of me.
onion2k 5y ago
My partner is a therapist and strongly advocates having a glass of wine with dinner most nights.
- Freak_NL 5y ago
  Two drinks each night versus one is quite a difference. It's double the amount of alcohol! Current recommendation from the Netherlands Nutrition Centre: > It is advisable to refrain from drinking alcohol, or to consume at most one glass a day. This advice applies equally to men and women. > Moderate consumption of alcohol at one glass a day may reduce the chance of getting certain chronic diseases, but also raises the chances of getting breast cancer for women. Drinking more than one glass a day, is not beneficial at all, and has negative effects on health. It increases the risks of having a stroke; and getting breast, intestinal, or long cancer. > The potential benefits of alcohol do not outweigh the negative effects on your health.¹ (Personally, I drink only in the weekends; usually one glass, occasionally two. It prevents making a habit out of it.) 1: https://www.voedingscentrum.nl/encyclopedie/alcohol.aspx https://www.voedingscentrum.nl/encyclopedie/alcohol.aspx
  - onion2k 5y ago
    Two drinks each night versus one is quite a difference. It's double the amount of alcohol! 2 bottles of 5% abv beer has a little less alcohol than 1 normal sized glass of 13% abv red wine.
    - Freak_NL 5y ago
      How are you calculating that? One standard 330ml bottle of beer at 5% has a little less alcohol than a standard pour (150ml) of 13% wine. As soon as you move to a pint or 500ml can of beer you go over it. This is why a glass of wine and a bottle of beer are taken as roughly equal in terms of alcohol content. 330×5% < 150×13%
      - onion2k 5y ago
        A glass of red wine is 250ml.
        Freak_NL 5y ago
        That would get you exactly three glasses from a bottle. That's… not a normal pour of wine in any country. A standard size bottle of wine (750ml) serves five or six glasses, but the hospitality industry usually goes for five out of a bottle. 150ml (or 5oz) is what you can reasonably expect in restaurants and bars for the average glass of wine. Do you honestly pour a third of a bottle at a time for wine?
        Lascaille 5y ago
        250ml is a standard UK measure of wine. 175ml and 125ml are also UK standards but in a lot of places if you order wine by the glass you'll get 250ml.
        Freak_NL 5y ago
        In the UK that is a 'large' glass of wine. The NHS¹ calls 175ml 'standard' (slightly more than usual) and 125ml 'small'. For the UK this is all not that relevant, because there the concept of the 'alcohol unit' is much more ingrained and used in public health campaigns, so you would work with those. E.g., with the recommended upper limit of 14 alcohol units, you could drink a standard glass of wine (175ml) six days of the week (12.6 units), or have a bottle of lager six days of the week and a pint of Guinness on Saturday (13.2 units). 1: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/alcohol-support/calculating-alcohol-units/ https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/alcohol-support/calculating-alc...

All I can say is that mindset is more important than amount consumed. Just look at depressed people drinking, a single beer already makes the person more likely to become an alcoholic. yet two or thee beers every evening wouldn't suddenly create an alcoholic out of me.

onion2k 5y ago

My partner is a therapist and strongly advocates having a glass of wine with dinner most nights.

Freak_NL 5y ago
Two drinks each night versus one is quite a difference. It's double the amount of alcohol! Current recommendation from the Netherlands Nutrition Centre: > It is advisable to refrain from drinking alcohol, or to consume at most one glass a day. This advice applies equally to men and women. > Moderate consumption of alcohol at one glass a day may reduce the chance of getting certain chronic diseases, but also raises the chances of getting breast cancer for women. Drinking more than one glass a day, is not beneficial at all, and has negative effects on health. It increases the risks of having a stroke; and getting breast, intestinal, or long cancer. > The potential benefits of alcohol do not outweigh the negative effects on your health.¹ (Personally, I drink only in the weekends; usually one glass, occasionally two. It prevents making a habit out of it.) 1: https://www.voedingscentrum.nl/encyclopedie/alcohol.aspx https://www.voedingscentrum.nl/encyclopedie/alcohol.aspx
- onion2k 5y ago
  Two drinks each night versus one is quite a difference. It's double the amount of alcohol! 2 bottles of 5% abv beer has a little less alcohol than 1 normal sized glass of 13% abv red wine.
  - Freak_NL 5y ago
    How are you calculating that? One standard 330ml bottle of beer at 5% has a little less alcohol than a standard pour (150ml) of 13% wine. As soon as you move to a pint or 500ml can of beer you go over it. This is why a glass of wine and a bottle of beer are taken as roughly equal in terms of alcohol content. 330×5% < 150×13%
    - onion2k 5y ago
      A glass of red wine is 250ml.
      - Freak_NL 5y ago
        That would get you exactly three glasses from a bottle. That's… not a normal pour of wine in any country. A standard size bottle of wine (750ml) serves five or six glasses, but the hospitality industry usually goes for five out of a bottle. 150ml (or 5oz) is what you can reasonably expect in restaurants and bars for the average glass of wine. Do you honestly pour a third of a bottle at a time for wine?
        Lascaille 5y ago
        250ml is a standard UK measure of wine. 175ml and 125ml are also UK standards but in a lot of places if you order wine by the glass you'll get 250ml.
        Freak_NL 5y ago
        In the UK that is a 'large' glass of wine. The NHS¹ calls 175ml 'standard' (slightly more than usual) and 125ml 'small'. For the UK this is all not that relevant, because there the concept of the 'alcohol unit' is much more ingrained and used in public health campaigns, so you would work with those. E.g., with the recommended upper limit of 14 alcohol units, you could drink a standard glass of wine (175ml) six days of the week (12.6 units), or have a bottle of lager six days of the week and a pint of Guinness on Saturday (13.2 units). 1: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/alcohol-support/calculating-alcohol-units/ https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/alcohol-support/calculating-alc...