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So, if I don’t use Windows then I’m fine?

jhanschoo 5y ago
If you don't use Windows you may not be able to access the content. See: platforms on which Netflix 4K streaming is supported.
- RealStickman_ 5y ago
  This is clearly a service problem that justifies sailing the high seas.
heavyset_go 5y ago
You'll be locked out of using your hardware's full potential, same goes for the software and media you use, too. Look at how Nvidia already locks nouveau developers out of using their GPUs' full power with cryptography.
- irrational 5y ago
  Well, I haven’t used Windows since 2002. I’ve been fine with my hardware speeds so far.
- mschuster91 5y ago
  > Look at how Nvidia already locks nouveau developers out of using their GPUs' full power with cryptography. The problem is not cryptography, the problem is copyright. Nouveau could in theory upload the signed firmware blob from a legitimate driver to the GPU and build an interface to communicate with it. The problem is, the legitimate driver package prohibits any kind of modification outside the intended purpose, which means it's questionable if building and redistributing a tool to extract the firmware blob out of a driver package is legal, and it's certainly not legal to redistribute that extracted blob. Here in Europe, at least the building and distribution of the tool as well as the act of the user to download the legitimate driver package, extract and use the blob should be legal, but that doesn't help if the developers of the project are outside of the EU :(
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
  Maybe "full potential" could have multiple meanings. For example, one user might focus on hardware performance^1 while another might focus on hardware flexibility. Freedom, doing whatever it is they wish with the hardware they have purchased. 1. Only applicable to an "approved use" of the hardware.
- Iolaum 5y ago
  There are already non mainstream OEMs you can buy hardware from that won't have this problem. System76, entroware, Purism (laptops+smartphones), Frame.Work (not only Linux laptops) and other Linux manufacturers are there to serve you. On the mobile space there is Purism, Pine64 and FairPhone. In our dystopian future, if you want ownership of a computing device you 'll need buy a nieche one.
  - arepublicadoceu 5y ago
    And good luck buying any of these devices if you’re outside of the blessed distribution centers. Try buying any of those in Brazil or non US/UK/EU countries and you’re going to have tons of fun with import taxes and shipping. Suddenly, a cheap device costs more than a flagship iPhone or android with none of their benefits except the intangible freedom.
    - supercheetah 5y ago
      Slimbook in Spain is like the EU version of System 76.
      - mardifoufs 5y ago
        Isn't system 76 european already?
    - Iolaum 5y ago
      Unfortunately that is so. In that case I 'd recommend (used or older) laptops compatible with linux and (older) phones known to be compatible with LineageOS (or postmarketOS if you are adventurous). This "solution" may not work everywhere in the world but hopefully it will cover a not insignificant part of non EU/US/UK. One of the best purchases I ever made was a le eco le pro 3 phone once the company went bankrupt for half the retail price 5 years ago. Bought it because it already had LineageOS support. Today it runs Lineage OS 18.1 (android 11) like a champ, it can be make to run bank apps (passing safetynet) if I want to. Still lineage OS is not a silver bullet you either need to get lucky and pick a phone with a big enough following that volunteer devs will support or scout XDA threads in order to identify those phones before purchasing.
conradev 5y ago
Or macOS/iOS – both can enforce HDCP at the kernel level, for example
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avhception 5y ago
As long as you are able to purchase sufficiently fast hardware that lets you run other OSes and don't want to play games or watch videos on that hardware I guess.
- malka 5y ago
  I agree for games. They can be made extremely difficult to crack. Videos are easy to though.
  - faeyanpiraat 5y ago
    Just wait till they figure out how to emit light from the TVs which you can see but cameras cannot. :D
    - CrazyPyroLinux 5y ago
      That's where Nerualink comes in...
CraneWorm 5y ago
as long as you pirate stuff you should be golden

If you don't use Windows you may not be able to access the content. See: platforms on which Netflix 4K streaming is supported.

RealStickman_ 5y ago
This is clearly a service problem that justifies sailing the high seas.

heavyset_go 5y ago

You'll be locked out of using your hardware's full potential, same goes for the software and media you use, too. Look at how Nvidia already locks nouveau developers out of using their GPUs' full power with cryptography.

irrational 5y ago
Well, I haven’t used Windows since 2002. I’ve been fine with my hardware speeds so far.
mschuster91 5y ago
> Look at how Nvidia already locks nouveau developers out of using their GPUs' full power with cryptography. The problem is not cryptography, the problem is copyright. Nouveau could in theory upload the signed firmware blob from a legitimate driver to the GPU and build an interface to communicate with it. The problem is, the legitimate driver package prohibits any kind of modification outside the intended purpose, which means it's questionable if building and redistributing a tool to extract the firmware blob out of a driver package is legal, and it's certainly not legal to redistribute that extracted blob. Here in Europe, at least the building and distribution of the tool as well as the act of the user to download the legitimate driver package, extract and use the blob should be legal, but that doesn't help if the developers of the project are outside of the EU :(
1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
Maybe "full potential" could have multiple meanings. For example, one user might focus on hardware performance^1 while another might focus on hardware flexibility. Freedom, doing whatever it is they wish with the hardware they have purchased. 1. Only applicable to an "approved use" of the hardware.
Iolaum 5y ago
There are already non mainstream OEMs you can buy hardware from that won't have this problem. System76, entroware, Purism (laptops+smartphones), Frame.Work (not only Linux laptops) and other Linux manufacturers are there to serve you. On the mobile space there is Purism, Pine64 and FairPhone. In our dystopian future, if you want ownership of a computing device you 'll need buy a nieche one.
- arepublicadoceu 5y ago
  And good luck buying any of these devices if you’re outside of the blessed distribution centers. Try buying any of those in Brazil or non US/UK/EU countries and you’re going to have tons of fun with import taxes and shipping. Suddenly, a cheap device costs more than a flagship iPhone or android with none of their benefits except the intangible freedom.
  - supercheetah 5y ago
    Slimbook in Spain is like the EU version of System 76.
    - mardifoufs 5y ago
      Isn't system 76 european already?
  - Iolaum 5y ago
    Unfortunately that is so. In that case I 'd recommend (used or older) laptops compatible with linux and (older) phones known to be compatible with LineageOS (or postmarketOS if you are adventurous). This "solution" may not work everywhere in the world but hopefully it will cover a not insignificant part of non EU/US/UK. One of the best purchases I ever made was a le eco le pro 3 phone once the company went bankrupt for half the retail price 5 years ago. Bought it because it already had LineageOS support. Today it runs Lineage OS 18.1 (android 11) like a champ, it can be make to run bank apps (passing safetynet) if I want to. Still lineage OS is not a silver bullet you either need to get lucky and pick a phone with a big enough following that volunteer devs will support or scout XDA threads in order to identify those phones before purchasing.

conradev 5y ago

Or macOS/iOS – both can enforce HDCP at the kernel level, for example

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avhception 5y ago

As long as you are able to purchase sufficiently fast hardware that lets you run other OSes and don't want to play games or watch videos on that hardware I guess.

malka 5y ago
I agree for games. They can be made extremely difficult to crack. Videos are easy to though.
- faeyanpiraat 5y ago
  Just wait till they figure out how to emit light from the TVs which you can see but cameras cannot. :D
  - CrazyPyroLinux 5y ago
    That's where Nerualink comes in...

CraneWorm 5y ago

as long as you pirate stuff you should be golden