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So long as the https://www.eff.org/issues/analog-hole https://www.eff.org/issues/analog-hole exists, piracy cannot be stopped. The ever-escalating arms race bet
by seanp2k2 5y ago
So long as the https://www.eff.org/issues/analog-hole https://www.eff.org/issues/analog-hole exists, piracy cannot be stopped. The ever-escalating arms race between content and consumers will go on, but there will be no victory, only collateral damage.
If you have content people value but they aren't willing to pay for it, find out why. Maybe it's because you're charging too much, running too many ads, making it hard to cancel, or they just don't actually value it all that much. In YouTube's case, I would say that for the vast majority of content and the vast majority of users on the site, the content is worth approximately $0.00 to them, and the content is not so crucial that a few unskippable ads in a row will have most users just saying "forget it" and finding something else to do.
Yes, pointing a camera at a monitor is more work and worse quality than getting the original video with best-quality-possible [compressed] audio, but no amount of laws can prevent people from doing that if they really value the content highly.
- 14 5y agoYou gave me an idea if someone was to design a small display attached to a camera paired specifically to capture high quality video not just someone propping up a camera but where external light was blocked and the image size and camera are perfectly matched with an audio input as well they may have a market.
- dento 5y agoWhy not skip the display completely and just go with a capture card? They are cheap and have none of the issues with lights and timings.
- 14 5y agoI was just thinking with vendors making hardware more hostile and if they made that not a possibility where an external camera defeats that. If a capture card works then that seems even easier and if youtubedl is under attack maybe that is how people will do it but one thing is for sure, people will do it.
- adhesive_wombat 5y agoIn theory, HDCP is supposed to prevent such use, by cryptographically verifying that the video isn't going to a device able to copy the media. Keys can be revoked by, say inserting a disc with a new set of revocations on it (alongside the media). If you want to play such media, you have to license keys from Intel and show that your design is hostile to copying.
- account42 5y agoIn theory, yes.
- diavolodeejay 5y agoYou may be on something: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinescope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinescope So yeah, it's possibile to do it, but nowadays isn't done because there are more pratical ways to record video
- alamortsubite 5y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole
- eashman 5y agoThis is similar to how they would broadcast film on television in the early days - using a Kinescope. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinescope https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinescope
- blibble 5y agothey can put fingerprints/watermarks into the analogue signal pretty easily if they're scared of that plus the analogue hole is disappearing rapidly (including the 3.5mm jack)
- armada651 5y ago> plus the analogue hole is disappearing rapidly As long as you can aim a camera at a monitor or put a Bluetooth speaker next to a microphone the analogue loop hole will never disappear.
- blibble 5y agofingerprinting can survive both of those
- fluoridation 5y agoWhile someone is busy tracing that fingerprint, everyone has already copied and watched the video.
- blibble 5y agothe fingerprint disables the camera (or puts it into some sort of crappy mode) if you want a real world example of this in practice: search for the EURIon constellation
- fluoridation 5y agoUse an old camera.
- blibble 5y agothen when you try ingesting the footage into the machine/cpu/hard drive/router/cloud storage/... it's not really something you can win as an individual on an infinite timescale (unless you plan to keep your VHS around for the next few hundred years)