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When I was at microsoft, I campaigned hard that we should name windows releases after dog breeds. Apple did big cats, who wouldn’t love to download windows 10 g

When I was at microsoft, I campaigned hard that we should name windows releases after dog breeds. Apple did big cats, who wouldn’t love to download windows 10 golden retriever? No one wants windows 10 fall 2021 update for creators.

_AzMoo 5y ago
As an avid Apple user, I can't stand their naming conventions. I don't have any idea if High Sierra came before or after Mojave, or if Lion was before or after Mountain Lion. I would much prefer version numbers/years.
- spsful 5y ago
  But they do? Each version of macOS is numbered. We're on macOS 12 right now.
  - itslennysfault 5y ago
    Honestly, I had no idea. I recently had to have my MBP repaired (new logic board... as always). So, I got it back with the latest OS (Monterey). I needed to download some software that was for specific versions of MacOS, and I honestly didn't even know there was a OS 12. I thought I was still on "OSX". If it wasn't "Monterey" and was just MacOS 12 there would've been no confusion. I feel like it's always an exercise of looking up the code name to find the version whenever someone is like "Yeah, I'm on Big Sur" .... ok one sec, let me google what that even means.
    - pknomad 5y ago
      I spent some time as CPE so I guess the naming convention always made sense? You went from lesser cats to greater cats and now to different sites in CA. Each naming always comes with a version number to fall back on...
  - gruez 5y ago
    That doesn't help when people like to refer to the version by its name only, omitting the number, which forces you to do a lookup against wikipedia or whatever.
- d110af5ccf 5y ago
  Yup, I also hate this in the Linux world. Debian Bullseye? Ubuntu Focal? WTF? Ubuntu 20.04LTS thank you very much please cease and desist with the "cute" names that force me to consult a chart every time I encounter them. iPhone 10, Galaxy S7, RX470, such product names are significantly easier to keep track of.
  - hexane360 5y ago
    Debian, Ubuntu, and Android names are all alphabetical, so you can tell which versions are newer and older. That's all version numbers are really useful for anyways.
    - 0cVlTeIATBs 5y ago
      Version numbers can also tell you the date of the release.
    - npteljes 5y ago
      Debian is definitely not alphabetical https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_version_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_version_history
    - d110af5ccf 5y ago
      Just checked. Android and Ubuntu, yes. TIL. Debian I don't think so though? It goes Jessie(8), Stretch(9), Buster(10), Bullseye(11). Many other examples of non-alphabetical products exist. Regardless, numbers are easier to work with, easier to remember, and it's immediately apparent what's going on with them. "debootstrap focal target" is more difficult to remember than a hypothetical "debootstrap ubuntu 20.04 target" would be. In practice I have to consult a chart almost every time.
    - muterad_murilax 5y ago
      So, Impish Indri vs. Intrepid Ibex - which one is newer? ;)
- Angostura 5y ago
  Mountain Lion was after Lion - Snow Leopard Leopard. IN fact I think I can remeber all the cat ordering. But as someone in the UK random californian landmarks are inpossible to remember.
NikolaNovak 5y ago
Does anybody know which cat came before another though? Numbers are best. Years are fine. Names are... Cute but Impractical.
- zeven7 5y ago
  Android alphabetical names seem fine.
  - d110af5ccf 5y ago
    TIL that they're alphabetical. I always hated them before just now but I guess that's slightly more tolerable. Really though, please just stick to numbers if you ever have to name a product lineup. It's immediately obvious to anyone that Firefox 77 came after Firefox 76.
    - chungy 5y ago
      Once you run out of letters, it gets confusing too. Ubuntu's wrapped around I think twice in its history; it goes through code names from A to Z before starting over again. Is Gutsy Gibbon newer or older than Babbling Baboon? At least the $YEAR.$MONTH release numbers make sense, no questions about the relationship 18.04 and 21.10 have.
  - NikolaNovak 5y ago
    Didn't they drop it? Or de-emphasize it? I know current version is android 12 but have no clue of the name. Same for all previous. My old note 8 has android 9. My original htc I think enddd on 1.6 or something. I still have an ancient Asus tablet on android 4. Etc - I never knew or cared, and didn't HAVE to, about the cute name.
pjmlp 5y ago
To top that, when reading SDK docs it is actually 1709.

_AzMoo 5y ago

As an avid Apple user, I can't stand their naming conventions. I don't have any idea if High Sierra came before or after Mojave, or if Lion was before or after Mountain Lion. I would much prefer version numbers/years.

spsful 5y ago
But they do? Each version of macOS is numbered. We're on macOS 12 right now.
- itslennysfault 5y ago
  Honestly, I had no idea. I recently had to have my MBP repaired (new logic board... as always). So, I got it back with the latest OS (Monterey). I needed to download some software that was for specific versions of MacOS, and I honestly didn't even know there was a OS 12. I thought I was still on "OSX". If it wasn't "Monterey" and was just MacOS 12 there would've been no confusion. I feel like it's always an exercise of looking up the code name to find the version whenever someone is like "Yeah, I'm on Big Sur" .... ok one sec, let me google what that even means.
  - pknomad 5y ago
    I spent some time as CPE so I guess the naming convention always made sense? You went from lesser cats to greater cats and now to different sites in CA. Each naming always comes with a version number to fall back on...
- gruez 5y ago
  That doesn't help when people like to refer to the version by its name only, omitting the number, which forces you to do a lookup against wikipedia or whatever.
d110af5ccf 5y ago
Yup, I also hate this in the Linux world. Debian Bullseye? Ubuntu Focal? WTF? Ubuntu 20.04LTS thank you very much please cease and desist with the "cute" names that force me to consult a chart every time I encounter them. iPhone 10, Galaxy S7, RX470, such product names are significantly easier to keep track of.
- hexane360 5y ago
  Debian, Ubuntu, and Android names are all alphabetical, so you can tell which versions are newer and older. That's all version numbers are really useful for anyways.
  - 0cVlTeIATBs 5y ago
    Version numbers can also tell you the date of the release.
  - npteljes 5y ago
    Debian is definitely not alphabetical https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_version_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_version_history
  - d110af5ccf 5y ago
    Just checked. Android and Ubuntu, yes. TIL. Debian I don't think so though? It goes Jessie(8), Stretch(9), Buster(10), Bullseye(11). Many other examples of non-alphabetical products exist. Regardless, numbers are easier to work with, easier to remember, and it's immediately apparent what's going on with them. "debootstrap focal target" is more difficult to remember than a hypothetical "debootstrap ubuntu 20.04 target" would be. In practice I have to consult a chart almost every time.
  - muterad_murilax 5y ago
    So, Impish Indri vs. Intrepid Ibex - which one is newer? ;)
Angostura 5y ago
Mountain Lion was after Lion - Snow Leopard Leopard. IN fact I think I can remeber all the cat ordering. But as someone in the UK random californian landmarks are inpossible to remember.

NikolaNovak 5y ago

Does anybody know which cat came before another though? Numbers are best. Years are fine. Names are... Cute but Impractical.

zeven7 5y ago
Android alphabetical names seem fine.
- d110af5ccf 5y ago
  TIL that they're alphabetical. I always hated them before just now but I guess that's slightly more tolerable. Really though, please just stick to numbers if you ever have to name a product lineup. It's immediately obvious to anyone that Firefox 77 came after Firefox 76.
  - chungy 5y ago
    Once you run out of letters, it gets confusing too. Ubuntu's wrapped around I think twice in its history; it goes through code names from A to Z before starting over again. Is Gutsy Gibbon newer or older than Babbling Baboon? At least the $YEAR.$MONTH release numbers make sense, no questions about the relationship 18.04 and 21.10 have.
- NikolaNovak 5y ago
  Didn't they drop it? Or de-emphasize it? I know current version is android 12 but have no clue of the name. Same for all previous. My old note 8 has android 9. My original htc I think enddd on 1.6 or something. I still have an ancient Asus tablet on android 4. Etc - I never knew or cared, and didn't HAVE to, about the cute name.

pjmlp 5y ago

To top that, when reading SDK docs it is actually 1709.