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I suspect these numbers have large error bars, making a top 10 list pretty meaningless. First off, if you look at the same report from last year (first link in

by pavon 5y ago

I suspect these numbers have large error bars, making a top 10 list pretty meaningless. First off, if you look at the same report from last year (first link in article), only a single car model shows up in both lists. There is no reason to expect such large swings in ownership or behavior in such a short period in time, suggesting the change is likely due to random variation in sampling. On top of that their methodology only counts drivers that used a relatively obscure service to compare insurance, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a small number of DUIs per model in general.

dmix 5y ago
It’s also the opposite extreme of survivorship bias.
- jetbooster 5y ago
  To spell this out, as I didn't quite understand what the reply meant, These vehicles are the ones you are most likely to have a crash in and therefore be DUI'd, but also still survive said crash instead of dying. Obviously you could also be pulled over instead of crashing, but some cars may be under-represented in these figures because the driver does not survive.
  - c3534l 5y ago
    But isn't only counting those that literally survive the very essence of survivorship bias? How is it the opposite of survivorship bias?
    - anthony_d 5y ago
      These are the owners that were caught. The survivors didn’t get caught, maybe because they didn’t drive after drinking but maybe because they weren’t pulled over.
KennyBlanken 5y ago
I find it difficult to believe the issue is small sample size, given how many DUIs there are in the US. The biggest influence is going to be whether you were wealthy enough. The difference between a DUI conviction and any other outcome is wealth and applying it toward a top-shelf DUI attorney. DUI attorneys traffic in leveraging their connections to either keep you out of court in the first place, get a favorable plea, a favorable prosecutor/judge, or if all that fails, find the tiniest little mistake in the case.

by pavon 5y ago

dmix 5y ago

It’s also the opposite extreme of survivorship bias.

jetbooster 5y ago
To spell this out, as I didn't quite understand what the reply meant, These vehicles are the ones you are most likely to have a crash in and therefore be DUI'd, but also still survive said crash instead of dying. Obviously you could also be pulled over instead of crashing, but some cars may be under-represented in these figures because the driver does not survive.
- c3534l 5y ago
  But isn't only counting those that literally survive the very essence of survivorship bias? How is it the opposite of survivorship bias?
  - anthony_d 5y ago
    These are the owners that were caught. The survivors didn’t get caught, maybe because they didn’t drive after drinking but maybe because they weren’t pulled over.

KennyBlanken 5y ago

I find it difficult to believe the issue is small sample size, given how many DUIs there are in the US. The biggest influence is going to be whether you were wealthy enough. The difference between a DUI conviction and any other outcome is wealth and applying it toward a top-shelf DUI attorney. DUI attorneys traffic in leveraging their connections to either keep you out of court in the first place, get a favorable plea, a favorable prosecutor/judge, or if all that fails, find the tiniest little mistake in the case.