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Carrying devices across a border gives the Nation State Actors both physical access to your machine and a legal basis to mess with it - either by searching the
by kmeisthax 5y ago
Carrying devices across a border gives the Nation State Actors both physical access to your machine and a legal basis to mess with it - either by searching the device for secrets or by installing malware onto it. Some countries are better at this than others. I wouldn't bother doing this if I was just going from, say, the US to Canada[0]. However, China is notorious for messing with any Android[1] phones that cross their borders. Depending on what countries your company trades with, this policy might make sense.
In contrast, bulk shipments of imported devices are not usually tampered with in the same way[2]. Some countries do have similar restrictions on data import, but they can't mess with or spy on that data because you actually have end-to-end encryption in that case.
[0] I have heard reports of immigration officers demanding device passwords in such a case, but it's rare. If you're really paranoid, enough to want to do this when crossing US borders, I should point out that you should never live within 100 miles of them. Anything 100 miles or closer to a US border gives the US government power to demand your papers; furthermore, the people in border control treat this as a blank check to search for anything they want.
https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
[1] I have yet to hear reports of iPhone users getting their phones searched.
[2] Yes I know "Tailored Access Operations" exist, but this usually involves shipping intercepts, not someone buying a device in a store.
- raincom 5y agoIf CBP gets suspicious, they will ask for the device password to gather evidence from one's phone to deport back. This happened to a couple of people I know of.
- jon-wood 5y agoI haven’t travelled to China since before Covid was a thing, but when I went previously border control weren’t at all interested in our phones, and more or less waved us into the country once they’d checked our visas. To say they mess with any Android phone crossing the border is either massive hyperbole, or they’re doing it remotely as you run them through X-ray scanners.
- hedora 5y agoIf they can mess with them remotely, then it's game over for any sort of security property you think the phone has; there's no reason to think they have more capabilities than other governments or some of the larger organized crime syndicates.